Bradford Bulls players paid this month's wages

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Bulls players have now been paid this month’s wages, it has been confirmed.

The Bradford squad were scheduled to be paid earlier today but the P & A Partnership – the administrators currently running the club – sent an e-mail to a Bulls employee at 5.30pm last night.

The e-mail, containing the message that the players would not be paid on time, was then circulated onto Mick Potter’s squad.

Ernie Benbow, chief executive of players union League 13, today spoke of a complete breakdown in communication between Guilfoyle and the Bulls players.

However, it was revealed this afternoon that they have now been paid.

 

 

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11:06am Tue 14 Aug 12

Tatecastre says...

A non story, is it. Ok, I would advise who ever wins the bidding war to refuse to pay guilfoyle. See how he likes it. The man has no conscience, what so ever. Complains about the union, they have every right to make people, supporters aware of what is happening. I have, now nothing but utter contempt for the man.
A non story, is it. Ok, I would advise who ever wins the bidding war to refuse to pay guilfoyle. See how he likes it. The man has no conscience, what so ever. Complains about the union, they have every right to make people, supporters aware of what is happening. I have, now nothing but utter contempt for the man. Tatecastre
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11:09am Tue 14 Aug 12

Tatecastre says...

The same statement applies to the RFL, treating players, like this. Nothing but contempt. Are they trying to save the Bulls or not?
The same statement applies to the RFL, treating players, like this. Nothing but contempt. Are they trying to save the Bulls or not? Tatecastre
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11:12am Tue 14 Aug 12

Bacon Bantam says...

Tatecastre wrote:
A non story, is it. Ok, I would advise who ever wins the bidding war to refuse to pay guilfoyle. See how he likes it. The man has no conscience, what so ever. Complains about the union, they have every right to make people, supporters aware of what is happening. I have, now nothing but utter contempt for the man.
The administators didn't bring on this mess, they are only charged with trying to sort it out.

I agree the lack of communication is a disgrace but if there is no money how can he sanction payment?

No wonder it all went quiet on the are the RFL funding the wages this month story.
[quote][p][bold]Tatecastre[/bold] wrote: A non story, is it. Ok, I would advise who ever wins the bidding war to refuse to pay guilfoyle. See how he likes it. The man has no conscience, what so ever. Complains about the union, they have every right to make people, supporters aware of what is happening. I have, now nothing but utter contempt for the man.[/p][/quote]The administators didn't bring on this mess, they are only charged with trying to sort it out. I agree the lack of communication is a disgrace but if there is no money how can he sanction payment? No wonder it all went quiet on the are the RFL funding the wages this month story. Bacon Bantam
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11:13am Tue 14 Aug 12

bartsbull says...

I have said it from day one this man as a hidden agenda please get this mess sorted out

The players need to be kept informed at all times they have been fantastic for the club in these very hard times as have the staff who have carried on working without pay

I would not blame any of them if they walked away from the club this man as not treated them with respect

I understand that the administrator as to keep a tight reign but he also as a duty of care to any staff still employed by the club.

To me he as broken that duty of care by not informing the staff in person what was happening not everyone as e mails

We need to look after these people they have not broken there contracts by not turning up to play and i would hope they carry on playing as they are thing like this do not give a good impression to anyone
I have said it from day one this man as a hidden agenda please get this mess sorted out The players need to be kept informed at all times they have been fantastic for the club in these very hard times as have the staff who have carried on working without pay I would not blame any of them if they walked away from the club this man as not treated them with respect I understand that the administrator as to keep a tight reign but he also as a duty of care to any staff still employed by the club. To me he as broken that duty of care by not informing the staff in person what was happening not everyone as e mails We need to look after these people they have not broken there contracts by not turning up to play and i would hope they carry on playing as they are thing like this do not give a good impression to anyone bartsbull
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11:13am Tue 14 Aug 12

Bacon Bantam says...

Tatecastre wrote:
The same statement applies to the RFL, treating players, like this. Nothing but contempt. Are they trying to save the Bulls or not?
Once again, why is it up to the RFL to save the Bulls, they didn't create this mess.

As the players are going to be paid this story helps no one.
[quote][p][bold]Tatecastre[/bold] wrote: The same statement applies to the RFL, treating players, like this. Nothing but contempt. Are they trying to save the Bulls or not?[/p][/quote]Once again, why is it up to the RFL to save the Bulls, they didn't create this mess. As the players are going to be paid this story helps no one. Bacon Bantam
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11:19am Tue 14 Aug 12

Tatecastre says...

BB, they guaranteed the players wages til November. Now slip quietly back to city forum. As to the fact,yes they are going to be paid, but a day late. Bills have to be met. If you have a DD to go out on the 13, it's no good getting paid on the 14. Bank charges. You wouldn't like it.
BB, they guaranteed the players wages til November. Now slip quietly back to city forum. As to the fact,yes they are going to be paid, but a day late. Bills have to be met. If you have a DD to go out on the 13, it's no good getting paid on the 14. Bank charges. You wouldn't like it. Tatecastre
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11:20am Tue 14 Aug 12

Steam Pigs says...

To be fair on BG - he has no money coming in from the Bulls so he was going to liquidate (hence the SLE bid...) - since we are still breathing I assume that the RFL agreed to paying the players wages until season end as requested by BG.
To be fair on BG - he has no money coming in from the Bulls so he was going to liquidate (hence the SLE bid...) - since we are still breathing I assume that the RFL agreed to paying the players wages until season end as requested by BG. Steam Pigs
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11:24am Tue 14 Aug 12

Sheffieldbull says...

So wages not being paid on time, months of uncertainty with the prospect of more weeks of not knowing to come. -Benbow added: "There are faults that lie with both the administrator and the RFL because there is an undertaking that the players will be paid through to the end of the season." Maybe the RFL should have stripped the Bulls of all points instead of just 6, it may have saved all this panicking on their part.... does that sound like a conspiracy theory?....”
So wages not being paid on time, months of uncertainty with the prospect of more weeks of not knowing to come. -Benbow added: "There are faults that lie with both the administrator and the RFL because there is an undertaking that the players will be paid through to the end of the season." Maybe the RFL should have stripped the Bulls of all points instead of just 6, it may have saved all this panicking on their part.... does that sound like a conspiracy theory?....” Sheffieldbull
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11:25am Tue 14 Aug 12

tyker2 says...

this failure is not one by the club but by the administrator himself. Perhaps he should take a long hard look at his own activities and let us know if, perchance, he has paid his own invoices!!

Liquidation is now the only option!!
this failure is not one by the club but by the administrator himself. Perhaps he should take a long hard look at his own activities and let us know if, perchance, he has paid his own invoices!! Liquidation is now the only option!! tyker2
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11:28am Tue 14 Aug 12

batleybull says...

I have to say I agree partly with both sides, Guilfoyle has been negligent in keeping players and other staff up to speed with the situation and sending a e mail which he expected to be circulated to the players at 5.30 day before payday is totally disrespectful, also on the other hand if things had have been handled professionally this wouldnt have been news at all and the headline suggests the players are not getting paid at all. Finally everyone is aware it is not up to the rfl to save the bulls and that vein of thought is becoming quite tedious, it is not the fault of the players, staff or fans who are all suffering, it is the fault of certain individuals and after consideration of the full facts the rfl have agreed to assisting in trying to save the bulls and ensuring players wages are paid in a timely fashion, so why people keep on bringing it up is beyond me, it is old news now so change the record. Lets look forward and hope this week we have some positive news, whilst I appreciate everyone has a rights to an opinion the childish unacceptable behaviour of people on this site it getting pathetic, lets keep it to the point and grown up, if you dont agree fine but at least but up a decent argument in an adult fashion. Rant over.
I have to say I agree partly with both sides, Guilfoyle has been negligent in keeping players and other staff up to speed with the situation and sending a e mail which he expected to be circulated to the players at 5.30 day before payday is totally disrespectful, also on the other hand if things had have been handled professionally this wouldnt have been news at all and the headline suggests the players are not getting paid at all. Finally everyone is aware it is not up to the rfl to save the bulls and that vein of thought is becoming quite tedious, it is not the fault of the players, staff or fans who are all suffering, it is the fault of certain individuals and after consideration of the full facts the rfl have agreed to assisting in trying to save the bulls and ensuring players wages are paid in a timely fashion, so why people keep on bringing it up is beyond me, it is old news now so change the record. Lets look forward and hope this week we have some positive news, whilst I appreciate everyone has a rights to an opinion the childish unacceptable behaviour of people on this site it getting pathetic, lets keep it to the point and grown up, if you dont agree fine but at least but up a decent argument in an adult fashion. Rant over. batleybull
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11:29am Tue 14 Aug 12

Steam Pigs says...

tyker2 wrote:
this failure is not one by the club but by the administrator himself. Perhaps he should take a long hard look at his own activities and let us know if, perchance, he has paid his own invoices!!

Liquidation is now the only option!!
what with 4 unconditional bids on the table??? yeah lets do that..........
[quote][p][bold]tyker2[/bold] wrote: this failure is not one by the club but by the administrator himself. Perhaps he should take a long hard look at his own activities and let us know if, perchance, he has paid his own invoices!! Liquidation is now the only option!![/p][/quote]what with 4 unconditional bids on the table??? yeah lets do that.......... Steam Pigs
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11:34am Tue 14 Aug 12

onefaith says...

this is a joke that aint funny.....y dont you guilfoyle just crawl back under the pebble that u came from n disappear....woz at the game on sunday n the lads r doin evrything they can n doin it while there own futures are looking bleak......its nice to see aint it that the bad guys are winning while the good ones suffer.....if i woz a bulls player i would find the so called ex chairman n sue him 4 lose ov earnings.........bra
dford till i die
this is a joke that aint funny.....y dont you guilfoyle just crawl back under the pebble that u came from n disappear....woz at the game on sunday n the lads r doin evrything they can n doin it while there own futures are looking bleak......its nice to see aint it that the bad guys are winning while the good ones suffer.....if i woz a bulls player i would find the so called ex chairman n sue him 4 lose ov earnings.........bra dford till i die onefaith
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11:38am Tue 14 Aug 12

Andybulls says...

It hasbeen apparent for nearly 6 weeks that we will be relegated at the end of the year. The Super League chairmen were consulted when SL Europe put their bid in, why weren't they asked to vote on the bulls staying in SL at the same time. Or maybe they were!!!
The Administrator has been econimical with facts when it suits him, and in my opinion he should have taken the first unconditional offer based on the ever moving end date. This is most unprofessional piece of business I have seen conducted, sometimes in the public domain, but only when it suits. The RFLand Superleague are setting a precident tht will come back and bite them on te bum. Well done boys!
It hasbeen apparent for nearly 6 weeks that we will be relegated at the end of the year. The Super League chairmen were consulted when SL Europe put their bid in, why weren't they asked to vote on the bulls staying in SL at the same time. Or maybe they were!!! The Administrator has been econimical with facts when it suits him, and in my opinion he should have taken the first unconditional offer based on the ever moving end date. This is most unprofessional piece of business I have seen conducted, sometimes in the public domain, but only when it suits. The RFLand Superleague are setting a precident tht will come back and bite them on te bum. Well done boys! Andybulls
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11:38am Tue 14 Aug 12

Mumby was the best says...

Wow I don`t believe it, Criticise the T&A and it gets removed!!! Yet certain posters say allsorts of vile things to get peoples reactions and they stay.
Wow I don`t believe it, Criticise the T&A and it gets removed!!! Yet certain posters say allsorts of vile things to get peoples reactions and they stay. Mumby was the best
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11:42am Tue 14 Aug 12

yangyeight says...

Eddie Tees wrote:
Bacon Bantam wrote:
Tatecastre wrote: The same statement applies to the RFL, treating players, like this. Nothing but contempt. Are they trying to save the Bulls or not?
Once again, why is it up to the RFL to save the Bulls, they didn't create this mess. As the players are going to be paid this story helps no one.
As a number of people have stated - the players will be paid, the RFL have agreed to that. T&A working for Gargoyl and Voldermort Caisley here?. Trying to mix up trouble. Yes, a none story.
Disgusting way to treat the players though, who have been nothing short of amazing all through this sorry affair.
BB why do you hate the Bulls so much? I can only think it's jealousy because of the wonderfull support we get from the council and they did not want to know when it came to helping you!
Good to see the sporting section of our community supporting each other!
i want the bulls to survive but yeah as a city fan it does irk that the council bend over backwards with MY TAXES to help one club and not ALL clubs.
then people like you rub our noses in it and then wonder why some people do not like bulls!!
[quote][p][bold]Eddie Tees[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bacon Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tatecastre[/bold] wrote: The same statement applies to the RFL, treating players, like this. Nothing but contempt. Are they trying to save the Bulls or not?[/p][/quote]Once again, why is it up to the RFL to save the Bulls, they didn't create this mess. As the players are going to be paid this story helps no one.[/p][/quote]As a number of people have stated - the players will be paid, the RFL have agreed to that. T&A working for Gargoyl and Voldermort Caisley here?. Trying to mix up trouble. Yes, a none story. Disgusting way to treat the players though, who have been nothing short of amazing all through this sorry affair. BB why do you hate the Bulls so much? I can only think it's jealousy because of the wonderfull support we get from the council and they did not want to know when it came to helping you! Good to see the sporting section of our community supporting each other![/p][/quote]i want the bulls to survive but yeah as a city fan it does irk that the council bend over backwards with MY TAXES to help one club and not ALL clubs. then people like you rub our noses in it and then wonder why some people do not like bulls!! yangyeight
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11:42am Tue 14 Aug 12

yangyeight says...

Eddie Tees wrote:
Bacon Bantam wrote:
Tatecastre wrote: The same statement applies to the RFL, treating players, like this. Nothing but contempt. Are they trying to save the Bulls or not?
Once again, why is it up to the RFL to save the Bulls, they didn't create this mess. As the players are going to be paid this story helps no one.
As a number of people have stated - the players will be paid, the RFL have agreed to that. T&A working for Gargoyl and Voldermort Caisley here?. Trying to mix up trouble. Yes, a none story.
Disgusting way to treat the players though, who have been nothing short of amazing all through this sorry affair.
BB why do you hate the Bulls so much? I can only think it's jealousy because of the wonderfull support we get from the council and they did not want to know when it came to helping you!
Good to see the sporting section of our community supporting each other!
i want the bulls to survive but yeah as a city fan it does irk that the council bend over backwards with MY TAXES to help one club and not ALL clubs.
then people like you rub our noses in it and then wonder why some people do not like bulls!!
[quote][p][bold]Eddie Tees[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bacon Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tatecastre[/bold] wrote: The same statement applies to the RFL, treating players, like this. Nothing but contempt. Are they trying to save the Bulls or not?[/p][/quote]Once again, why is it up to the RFL to save the Bulls, they didn't create this mess. As the players are going to be paid this story helps no one.[/p][/quote]As a number of people have stated - the players will be paid, the RFL have agreed to that. T&A working for Gargoyl and Voldermort Caisley here?. Trying to mix up trouble. Yes, a none story. Disgusting way to treat the players though, who have been nothing short of amazing all through this sorry affair. BB why do you hate the Bulls so much? I can only think it's jealousy because of the wonderfull support we get from the council and they did not want to know when it came to helping you! Good to see the sporting section of our community supporting each other![/p][/quote]i want the bulls to survive but yeah as a city fan it does irk that the council bend over backwards with MY TAXES to help one club and not ALL clubs. then people like you rub our noses in it and then wonder why some people do not like bulls!! yangyeight
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11:44am Tue 14 Aug 12

Hudzilla says...

"a Non-Story"?!

The sooner this person gets his grubby fingers off our club, the better.
"a Non-Story"?! The sooner this person gets his grubby fingers off our club, the better. Hudzilla
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11:47am Tue 14 Aug 12

Sheffieldbull says...

Mumby was the best wrote:
Wow I don`t believe it, Criticise the T&A and it gets removed!!! Yet certain posters say allsorts of vile things to get peoples reactions and they stay.
It's always been the same Mumby - removed quicker than you could believe, totally hypocritical and shows an agenda....
[quote][p][bold]Mumby was the best[/bold] wrote: Wow I don`t believe it, Criticise the T&A and it gets removed!!! Yet certain posters say allsorts of vile things to get peoples reactions and they stay.[/p][/quote]It's always been the same Mumby - removed quicker than you could believe, totally hypocritical and shows an agenda.... Sheffieldbull
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11:51am Tue 14 Aug 12

Bacon Bantam says...

Eddie Tees wrote:
Bacon Bantam wrote:
Tatecastre wrote: The same statement applies to the RFL, treating players, like this. Nothing but contempt. Are they trying to save the Bulls or not?
Once again, why is it up to the RFL to save the Bulls, they didn't create this mess. As the players are going to be paid this story helps no one.
As a number of people have stated - the players will be paid, the RFL have agreed to that. T&A working for Gargoyl and Voldermort Caisley here?. Trying to mix up trouble. Yes, a none story. Disgusting way to treat the players though, who have been nothing short of amazing all through this sorry affair. BB why do you hate the Bulls so much? I can only think it's jealousy because of the wonderfull support we get from the council and they did not want to know when it came to helping you! Good to see the sporting section of our community supporting each other!
I don't hate the Bulls. Just because I point out that the RFL are not at fault for the mess the Bulls find themselves in and that the job of an administrator is to find the best deal for creditors somehow I'm seen to hate the Bulls.

I don't get it. What I don't like is the number of people on here who slate the administator and the RFL as if it is all their fault, they seem to think the club is owed something from these when in reality the club owes alot to the people at the RFL for still existing in some form as of today.

I've seen this at VP twice and both times is was awful so I know what this feels like, I'm just sick of all the fans sniping at those who are actually trying to help.

How many other super league clubs are having wages paid by the RFL? Be thankful of the help is all I say, not slate the helpers whenever you can.
[quote][p][bold]Eddie Tees[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bacon Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tatecastre[/bold] wrote: The same statement applies to the RFL, treating players, like this. Nothing but contempt. Are they trying to save the Bulls or not?[/p][/quote]Once again, why is it up to the RFL to save the Bulls, they didn't create this mess. As the players are going to be paid this story helps no one.[/p][/quote]As a number of people have stated - the players will be paid, the RFL have agreed to that. T&A working for Gargoyl and Voldermort Caisley here?. Trying to mix up trouble. Yes, a none story. Disgusting way to treat the players though, who have been nothing short of amazing all through this sorry affair. BB why do you hate the Bulls so much? I can only think it's jealousy because of the wonderfull support we get from the council and they did not want to know when it came to helping you! Good to see the sporting section of our community supporting each other![/p][/quote]I don't hate the Bulls. Just because I point out that the RFL are not at fault for the mess the Bulls find themselves in and that the job of an administrator is to find the best deal for creditors somehow I'm seen to hate the Bulls. I don't get it. What I don't like is the number of people on here who slate the administator and the RFL as if it is all their fault, they seem to think the club is owed something from these when in reality the club owes alot to the people at the RFL for still existing in some form as of today. I've seen this at VP twice and both times is was awful so I know what this feels like, I'm just sick of all the fans sniping at those who are actually trying to help. How many other super league clubs are having wages paid by the RFL? Be thankful of the help is all I say, not slate the helpers whenever you can. Bacon Bantam
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11:59am Tue 14 Aug 12

scandanavian's love child52 says...

Mumby put your teddy back in the pram lad
Mumby put your teddy back in the pram lad scandanavian's love child52
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12:10pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Eddie Tees says...

yangyeight wrote:
Eddie Tees wrote:
Bacon Bantam wrote:
Tatecastre wrote: The same statement applies to the RFL, treating players, like this. Nothing but contempt. Are they trying to save the Bulls or not?
Once again, why is it up to the RFL to save the Bulls, they didn't create this mess. As the players are going to be paid this story helps no one.
As a number of people have stated - the players will be paid, the RFL have agreed to that. T&A working for Gargoyl and Voldermort Caisley here?. Trying to mix up trouble. Yes, a none story. Disgusting way to treat the players though, who have been nothing short of amazing all through this sorry affair. BB why do you hate the Bulls so much? I can only think it's jealousy because of the wonderfull support we get from the council and they did not want to know when it came to helping you! Good to see the sporting section of our community supporting each other!
i want the bulls to survive but yeah as a city fan it does irk that the council bend over backwards with MY TAXES to help one club and not ALL clubs. then people like you rub our noses in it and then wonder why some people do not like bulls!!
I am not rubbing anyones nose in any thing. It's called IRONY! I find it hard to understand why people come on this forum JUST to have a go at the Bulls. Especially when they support a Bradford team.
We all know why the council got involved so need to rake over all that again.
I feel for every single person involved with the club.
Gargoyl, stop this nonsence and put an end to it all one way or another. At least then we can choose if we support a Caisley run Bulls or not!
[quote][p][bold]yangyeight[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eddie Tees[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bacon Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tatecastre[/bold] wrote: The same statement applies to the RFL, treating players, like this. Nothing but contempt. Are they trying to save the Bulls or not?[/p][/quote]Once again, why is it up to the RFL to save the Bulls, they didn't create this mess. As the players are going to be paid this story helps no one.[/p][/quote]As a number of people have stated - the players will be paid, the RFL have agreed to that. T&A working for Gargoyl and Voldermort Caisley here?. Trying to mix up trouble. Yes, a none story. Disgusting way to treat the players though, who have been nothing short of amazing all through this sorry affair. BB why do you hate the Bulls so much? I can only think it's jealousy because of the wonderfull support we get from the council and they did not want to know when it came to helping you! Good to see the sporting section of our community supporting each other![/p][/quote]i want the bulls to survive but yeah as a city fan it does irk that the council bend over backwards with MY TAXES to help one club and not ALL clubs. then people like you rub our noses in it and then wonder why some people do not like bulls!![/p][/quote]I am not rubbing anyones nose in any thing. It's called IRONY! I find it hard to understand why people come on this forum JUST to have a go at the Bulls. Especially when they support a Bradford team. We all know why the council got involved so need to rake over all that again. I feel for every single person involved with the club. Gargoyl, stop this nonsence and put an end to it all one way or another. At least then we can choose if we support a Caisley run Bulls or not! Eddie Tees
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12:11pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Bacon Bantam says...

The T&A does itself no favours in creating headlines like this.

Bulls players wages delayed is a more suitable headline but I guess it doesn't have the same effect.
The T&A does itself no favours in creating headlines like this. Bulls players wages delayed is a more suitable headline but I guess it doesn't have the same effect. Bacon Bantam
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12:16pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Eddie Tees says...

Bacon Bantam wrote:
Eddie Tees wrote:
Bacon Bantam wrote:
Tatecastre wrote: The same statement applies to the RFL, treating players, like this. Nothing but contempt. Are they trying to save the Bulls or not?
Once again, why is it up to the RFL to save the Bulls, they didn't create this mess. As the players are going to be paid this story helps no one.
As a number of people have stated - the players will be paid, the RFL have agreed to that. T&A working for Gargoyl and Voldermort Caisley here?. Trying to mix up trouble. Yes, a none story. Disgusting way to treat the players though, who have been nothing short of amazing all through this sorry affair. BB why do you hate the Bulls so much? I can only think it's jealousy because of the wonderfull support we get from the council and they did not want to know when it came to helping you! Good to see the sporting section of our community supporting each other!
I don't hate the Bulls. Just because I point out that the RFL are not at fault for the mess the Bulls find themselves in and that the job of an administrator is to find the best deal for creditors somehow I'm seen to hate the Bulls. I don't get it. What I don't like is the number of people on here who slate the administator and the RFL as if it is all their fault, they seem to think the club is owed something from these when in reality the club owes alot to the people at the RFL for still existing in some form as of today. I've seen this at VP twice and both times is was awful so I know what this feels like, I'm just sick of all the fans sniping at those who are actually trying to help. How many other super league clubs are having wages paid by the RFL? Be thankful of the help is all I say, not slate the helpers whenever you can.
Fare point BB.
We will never know how many clubs the RFL help out and to what extent.
The one point I will pick up on - Gargoyl is in this for one reason only - toline his own pockets. (to the tune of £500 per hour!) He has no feeling for anyone conected to tjhe club. Each day that point becomes clearer. I am extreemly gratefull for the support we are getting. None more so than other clubs helping with ticket sales etc.
[quote][p][bold]Bacon Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eddie Tees[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bacon Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tatecastre[/bold] wrote: The same statement applies to the RFL, treating players, like this. Nothing but contempt. Are they trying to save the Bulls or not?[/p][/quote]Once again, why is it up to the RFL to save the Bulls, they didn't create this mess. As the players are going to be paid this story helps no one.[/p][/quote]As a number of people have stated - the players will be paid, the RFL have agreed to that. T&A working for Gargoyl and Voldermort Caisley here?. Trying to mix up trouble. Yes, a none story. Disgusting way to treat the players though, who have been nothing short of amazing all through this sorry affair. BB why do you hate the Bulls so much? I can only think it's jealousy because of the wonderfull support we get from the council and they did not want to know when it came to helping you! Good to see the sporting section of our community supporting each other![/p][/quote]I don't hate the Bulls. Just because I point out that the RFL are not at fault for the mess the Bulls find themselves in and that the job of an administrator is to find the best deal for creditors somehow I'm seen to hate the Bulls. I don't get it. What I don't like is the number of people on here who slate the administator and the RFL as if it is all their fault, they seem to think the club is owed something from these when in reality the club owes alot to the people at the RFL for still existing in some form as of today. I've seen this at VP twice and both times is was awful so I know what this feels like, I'm just sick of all the fans sniping at those who are actually trying to help. How many other super league clubs are having wages paid by the RFL? Be thankful of the help is all I say, not slate the helpers whenever you can.[/p][/quote]Fare point BB. We will never know how many clubs the RFL help out and to what extent. The one point I will pick up on - Gargoyl is in this for one reason only - toline his own pockets. (to the tune of £500 per hour!) He has no feeling for anyone conected to tjhe club. Each day that point becomes clearer. I am extreemly gratefull for the support we are getting. None more so than other clubs helping with ticket sales etc. Eddie Tees
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12:21pm Tue 14 Aug 12

blue marlin says...

Bacon Bantam wrote:
The T&A does itself no favours in creating headlines like this. Bulls players wages delayed is a more suitable headline but I guess it doesn't have the same effect.
on another point did anybody see g sutcliffe sat with gilfoyle in the coral stand at the game friday?
[quote][p][bold]Bacon Bantam[/bold] wrote: The T&A does itself no favours in creating headlines like this. Bulls players wages delayed is a more suitable headline but I guess it doesn't have the same effect.[/p][/quote]on another point did anybody see g sutcliffe sat with gilfoyle in the coral stand at the game friday? blue marlin
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12:40pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Tricky Dicky says...

Again, get real some posters. The Bulls are in administration, one step away from liquidation. The administrator's job is to protect the creditors. If he cannot pay staff then he must make them redundant - that is his remit. The fact that he hasn't sacked or sold any of the playing staff can only be applauded. We all realise the game being played out here - the RFL want to ensure the Bulls see out the season (and they are keeping their fingers crossed that we don't make the play-offs!). After that, it's all over and has been for a while. No one is interested in saving Bradford Bulls plc. Some of the bids have been comical. As stated before, the Bulls should have been liquidated weeks ago and a newco given the chance to plan for next season (in a division of the Championship) and beyond. Many SL chairmen have already made their minds up that SL doesn't need the Bulls (at least not from next season onwards) so let's pull the plug NOW and let all the dirty water run away. Doing it after the final game of the season will just make everyone more cynical and suspicious of the RFL.
Again, get real some posters. The Bulls are in administration, one step away from liquidation. The administrator's job is to protect the creditors. If he cannot pay staff then he must make them redundant - that is his remit. The fact that he hasn't sacked or sold any of the playing staff can only be applauded. We all realise the game being played out here - the RFL want to ensure the Bulls see out the season (and they are keeping their fingers crossed that we don't make the play-offs!). After that, it's all over and has been for a while. No one is interested in saving Bradford Bulls plc. Some of the bids have been comical. As stated before, the Bulls should have been liquidated weeks ago and a newco given the chance to plan for next season (in a division of the Championship) and beyond. Many SL chairmen have already made their minds up that SL doesn't need the Bulls (at least not from next season onwards) so let's pull the plug NOW and let all the dirty water run away. Doing it after the final game of the season will just make everyone more cynical and suspicious of the RFL. Tricky Dicky
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12:42pm Tue 14 Aug 12

johnnyjones says...

Mr Blackburn taking over at the bulls would have perfect symmetry after all his company has left debts all over bradford and the bulls are just about to ... and just think who the bulls could play pre season with him in charge ... As mr Blackburn no longer owns any park avenue shares as he as sold them to kevin hainsworth how much longer will he be chief exec ..??? maybe he needs a new job
Mr Blackburn taking over at the bulls would have perfect symmetry after all his company has left debts all over bradford and the bulls are just about to ... and just think who the bulls could play pre season with him in charge ... As mr Blackburn no longer owns any park avenue shares as he as sold them to kevin hainsworth how much longer will he be chief exec ..??? maybe he needs a new job johnnyjones
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12:47pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Mumby was the best says...

I know it is highly unlikely, maybe just possible. How much egg on their face would the RFL have if we got to the grand final? If we actually won would they have a championship side competing in the world club challenge bereft of SL players. I can dream!!!
I know it is highly unlikely, maybe just possible. How much egg on their face would the RFL have if we got to the grand final? If we actually won would they have a championship side competing in the world club challenge bereft of SL players. I can dream!!! Mumby was the best
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12:48pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Steam Pigs says...

Tricky Dicky wrote:
Again, get real some posters. The Bulls are in administration, one step away from liquidation. The administrator's job is to protect the creditors. If he cannot pay staff then he must make them redundant - that is his remit. The fact that he hasn't sacked or sold any of the playing staff can only be applauded. We all realise the game being played out here - the RFL want to ensure the Bulls see out the season (and they are keeping their fingers crossed that we don't make the play-offs!). After that, it's all over and has been for a while. No one is interested in saving Bradford Bulls plc. Some of the bids have been comical. As stated before, the Bulls should have been liquidated weeks ago and a newco given the chance to plan for next season (in a division of the Championship) and beyond. Many SL chairmen have already made their minds up that SL doesn't need the Bulls (at least not from next season onwards) so let's pull the plug NOW and let all the dirty water run away. Doing it after the final game of the season will just make everyone more cynical and suspicious of the RFL.
you started your post so well too.....

You obvioulsy work for BG or the RFl if you know the bids have been comical???? or you're speaking out of your behind.......

Which SL chairman have you spoken to?? I was under the impression that all 13 AGREED to buy the Bulls? Or maybe you're listening to rumours that Ken Davy and Eamon McManus want the league numbers reducing (not the same as losing the Bulls is it? ever slight difference)
[quote][p][bold]Tricky Dicky[/bold] wrote: Again, get real some posters. The Bulls are in administration, one step away from liquidation. The administrator's job is to protect the creditors. If he cannot pay staff then he must make them redundant - that is his remit. The fact that he hasn't sacked or sold any of the playing staff can only be applauded. We all realise the game being played out here - the RFL want to ensure the Bulls see out the season (and they are keeping their fingers crossed that we don't make the play-offs!). After that, it's all over and has been for a while. No one is interested in saving Bradford Bulls plc. Some of the bids have been comical. As stated before, the Bulls should have been liquidated weeks ago and a newco given the chance to plan for next season (in a division of the Championship) and beyond. Many SL chairmen have already made their minds up that SL doesn't need the Bulls (at least not from next season onwards) so let's pull the plug NOW and let all the dirty water run away. Doing it after the final game of the season will just make everyone more cynical and suspicious of the RFL.[/p][/quote]you started your post so well too..... You obvioulsy work for BG or the RFl if you know the bids have been comical???? or you're speaking out of your behind....... Which SL chairman have you spoken to?? I was under the impression that all 13 AGREED to buy the Bulls? Or maybe you're listening to rumours that Ken Davy and Eamon McManus want the league numbers reducing (not the same as losing the Bulls is it? ever slight difference) Steam Pigs
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12:49pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Mumby was the best says...

johnnyjones wrote:
Mr Blackburn taking over at the bulls would have perfect symmetry after all his company has left debts all over bradford and the bulls are just about to ... and just think who the bulls could play pre season with him in charge ... As mr Blackburn no longer owns any park avenue shares as he as sold them to kevin hainsworth how much longer will he be chief exec ..??? maybe he needs a new job
I will have to take your word on that I don`t have a clue who he is or anything about him. Sounds like a Caisley clone.
[quote][p][bold]johnnyjones[/bold] wrote: Mr Blackburn taking over at the bulls would have perfect symmetry after all his company has left debts all over bradford and the bulls are just about to ... and just think who the bulls could play pre season with him in charge ... As mr Blackburn no longer owns any park avenue shares as he as sold them to kevin hainsworth how much longer will he be chief exec ..??? maybe he needs a new job[/p][/quote]I will have to take your word on that I don`t have a clue who he is or anything about him. Sounds like a Caisley clone. Mumby was the best
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12:53pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Mumby was the best wrote:
I know it is highly unlikely, maybe just possible. How much egg on their face would the RFL have if we got to the grand final? If we actually won would they have a championship side competing in the world club challenge bereft of SL players. I can dream!!!
It won't happen though so I wouldn't worry about it.
[quote][p][bold]Mumby was the best[/bold] wrote: I know it is highly unlikely, maybe just possible. How much egg on their face would the RFL have if we got to the grand final? If we actually won would they have a championship side competing in the world club challenge bereft of SL players. I can dream!!![/p][/quote]It won't happen though so I wouldn't worry about it. Thee Voice of Reason
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1:30pm Tue 14 Aug 12

scandanavian's love child52 says...

RFL would just let Ganson do final
RFL would just let Ganson do final scandanavian's love child52
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1:42pm Tue 14 Aug 12

billybobbull says...

I don't quite get all the doom and gloom. It seems this was just an oversight amid all the confusion, between the club and RFL. It is serious, but not the end of the world.
The offers are being discussed as I type, and hopefully we have resolution today or tomorrow. Please wait and see what comes out of the meetings today before putting us the Championship.
The RFL are bending over backwards to help us, don't forget that. Without their help we would have finished before Easter.
Players will be paid, new owner announced, whether temporary or permanent, and we will be in SL next year if all goes to plan!!!
I don't quite get all the doom and gloom. It seems this was just an oversight amid all the confusion, between the club and RFL. It is serious, but not the end of the world. The offers are being discussed as I type, and hopefully we have resolution today or tomorrow. Please wait and see what comes out of the meetings today before putting us the Championship. The RFL are bending over backwards to help us, don't forget that. Without their help we would have finished before Easter. Players will be paid, new owner announced, whether temporary or permanent, and we will be in SL next year if all goes to plan!!! billybobbull
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1:47pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Mumby was the best says...

billybobbull wrote:
I don't quite get all the doom and gloom. It seems this was just an oversight amid all the confusion, between the club and RFL. It is serious, but not the end of the world.
The offers are being discussed as I type, and hopefully we have resolution today or tomorrow. Please wait and see what comes out of the meetings today before putting us the Championship.
The RFL are bending over backwards to help us, don't forget that. Without their help we would have finished before Easter.
Players will be paid, new owner announced, whether temporary or permanent, and we will be in SL next year if all goes to plan!!!
I agree. If we were to be relegated at end of season it does not give much time to replace us with a team that has to rebuild. They could run it with 13 teams but I don`t think that will happen.
Maybe relegation looms at the next round of licences.
[quote][p][bold]billybobbull[/bold] wrote: I don't quite get all the doom and gloom. It seems this was just an oversight amid all the confusion, between the club and RFL. It is serious, but not the end of the world. The offers are being discussed as I type, and hopefully we have resolution today or tomorrow. Please wait and see what comes out of the meetings today before putting us the Championship. The RFL are bending over backwards to help us, don't forget that. Without their help we would have finished before Easter. Players will be paid, new owner announced, whether temporary or permanent, and we will be in SL next year if all goes to plan!!![/p][/quote]I agree. If we were to be relegated at end of season it does not give much time to replace us with a team that has to rebuild. They could run it with 13 teams but I don`t think that will happen. Maybe relegation looms at the next round of licences. Mumby was the best
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1:56pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Steam Pigs says...

If someone pays off the debts... all will be forgotten.

The RFL have only supplied the Bulls with loans to present, all of which have been repaid....
If someone pays off the debts... all will be forgotten. The RFL have only supplied the Bulls with loans to present, all of which have been repaid.... Steam Pigs
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1:56pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Steam Pigs says...

If someone pays off the debts... all will be forgotten.

The RFL have only supplied the Bulls with loans to present, all of which have been repaid....
If someone pays off the debts... all will be forgotten. The RFL have only supplied the Bulls with loans to present, all of which have been repaid.... Steam Pigs
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1:57pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Eddie Tees says...

Mumby was the best wrote:
billybobbull wrote: I don't quite get all the doom and gloom. It seems this was just an oversight amid all the confusion, between the club and RFL. It is serious, but not the end of the world. The offers are being discussed as I type, and hopefully we have resolution today or tomorrow. Please wait and see what comes out of the meetings today before putting us the Championship. The RFL are bending over backwards to help us, don't forget that. Without their help we would have finished before Easter. Players will be paid, new owner announced, whether temporary or permanent, and we will be in SL next year if all goes to plan!!!
I agree. If we were to be relegated at end of season it does not give much time to replace us with a team that has to rebuild. They could run it with 13 teams but I don`t think that will happen. Maybe relegation looms at the next round of licences.
Who knows, when it comes to the next round of licencing we will hopefully be in a much stronger posission then.
[quote][p][bold]Mumby was the best[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billybobbull[/bold] wrote: I don't quite get all the doom and gloom. It seems this was just an oversight amid all the confusion, between the club and RFL. It is serious, but not the end of the world. The offers are being discussed as I type, and hopefully we have resolution today or tomorrow. Please wait and see what comes out of the meetings today before putting us the Championship. The RFL are bending over backwards to help us, don't forget that. Without their help we would have finished before Easter. Players will be paid, new owner announced, whether temporary or permanent, and we will be in SL next year if all goes to plan!!![/p][/quote]I agree. If we were to be relegated at end of season it does not give much time to replace us with a team that has to rebuild. They could run it with 13 teams but I don`t think that will happen. Maybe relegation looms at the next round of licences.[/p][/quote]Who knows, when it comes to the next round of licencing we will hopefully be in a much stronger posission then. Eddie Tees
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2:33pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Reality50 says...

3 more games left then kick them out of SL.Come back Halifax all is forgiven.
3 more games left then kick them out of SL.Come back Halifax all is forgiven. Reality50
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3:21pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Mumby was the best says...

Why should Halifax be forgiven?????
Why should Halifax be forgiven????? Mumby was the best
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3:25pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Eddie Tees wrote:
Reality50 wrote: 3 more games left then kick them out of SL.Come back Halifax all is forgiven.
Come back Halifax? Long long time before they are fit for SL
You don't see the irony in that remark as a Bulls fan.

The Bulls are far from in a position to say who is and isn't fit for Super League.
[quote][p][bold]Eddie Tees[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: 3 more games left then kick them out of SL.Come back Halifax all is forgiven.[/p][/quote]Come back Halifax? Long long time before they are fit for SL[/p][/quote]You don't see the irony in that remark as a Bulls fan. The Bulls are far from in a position to say who is and isn't fit for Super League. Thee Voice of Reason
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3:33pm Tue 14 Aug 12

raisemeup says...

Bacon Bantam wrote:
Eddie Tees wrote:
Bacon Bantam wrote:
Tatecastre wrote: The same statement applies to the RFL, treating players, like this. Nothing but contempt. Are they trying to save the Bulls or not?
Once again, why is it up to the RFL to save the Bulls, they didn't create this mess. As the players are going to be paid this story helps no one.
As a number of people have stated - the players will be paid, the RFL have agreed to that. T&A working for Gargoyl and Voldermort Caisley here?. Trying to mix up trouble. Yes, a none story. Disgusting way to treat the players though, who have been nothing short of amazing all through this sorry affair. BB why do you hate the Bulls so much? I can only think it's jealousy because of the wonderfull support we get from the council and they did not want to know when it came to helping you! Good to see the sporting section of our community supporting each other!
I don't hate the Bulls. Just because I point out that the RFL are not at fault for the mess the Bulls find themselves in and that the job of an administrator is to find the best deal for creditors somehow I'm seen to hate the Bulls.

I don't get it. What I don't like is the number of people on here who slate the administator and the RFL as if it is all their fault, they seem to think the club is owed something from these when in reality the club owes alot to the people at the RFL for still existing in some form as of today.

I've seen this at VP twice and both times is was awful so I know what this feels like, I'm just sick of all the fans sniping at those who are actually trying to help.

How many other super league clubs are having wages paid by the RFL? Be thankful of the help is all I say, not slate the helpers whenever you can.
One or two misconceptions here?
For a start the Money advanced to the Bulls. I understand is the SKY final payments under the present contractual arrangements.But in advance of the scheduled time to pay. And do you forget the 90% of all home games to be played at Odsal, and the Contingent liability clause that comes into the equation to the lease holder (ie RFL) which means the Bulls have to play 13 (12.6 for TVof Rs benefit) games at home, under our present 28 league game structure.

That's what I assume the written words meant anyway...

I remain to be totally convinced in the RFL as the benefactor you seem to think they are:
Besides which , in the Negotiaters game. You do not take the side of the seller if you are the Buyer! And vice-a-versa. That's fatal if you want a good deal.>
The only time sides can be taken is when a satisfactory deal is concluded.

And remember that deal is to be conditional on both parties being happy with how it pans out, with mutual benefit all round.

Notice I used the word conditional, swap that for concessions. Now you tell me from what we have heard have the RFL made any concessions?

I admire the patience of the buyers...most buyers I have known would have walked out on the sellers, and reported them to the office of fair trading after suffering the contemt we seem to have heard.

As they haven't taken this stance (to my knowledge anyway) we can only assume we are hearing a lot of flap doodle or shim sham, from many angles, and sources.
May I ask.for a neutrality in our posts. We are only serving to add a lot of fuel to a fire that none of us lit.

The blame game get's us nowhere.
[quote][p][bold]Bacon Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eddie Tees[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bacon Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tatecastre[/bold] wrote: The same statement applies to the RFL, treating players, like this. Nothing but contempt. Are they trying to save the Bulls or not?[/p][/quote]Once again, why is it up to the RFL to save the Bulls, they didn't create this mess. As the players are going to be paid this story helps no one.[/p][/quote]As a number of people have stated - the players will be paid, the RFL have agreed to that. T&A working for Gargoyl and Voldermort Caisley here?. Trying to mix up trouble. Yes, a none story. Disgusting way to treat the players though, who have been nothing short of amazing all through this sorry affair. BB why do you hate the Bulls so much? I can only think it's jealousy because of the wonderfull support we get from the council and they did not want to know when it came to helping you! Good to see the sporting section of our community supporting each other![/p][/quote]I don't hate the Bulls. Just because I point out that the RFL are not at fault for the mess the Bulls find themselves in and that the job of an administrator is to find the best deal for creditors somehow I'm seen to hate the Bulls. I don't get it. What I don't like is the number of people on here who slate the administator and the RFL as if it is all their fault, they seem to think the club is owed something from these when in reality the club owes alot to the people at the RFL for still existing in some form as of today. I've seen this at VP twice and both times is was awful so I know what this feels like, I'm just sick of all the fans sniping at those who are actually trying to help. How many other super league clubs are having wages paid by the RFL? Be thankful of the help is all I say, not slate the helpers whenever you can.[/p][/quote]One or two misconceptions here? For a start the Money advanced to the Bulls. I understand is the SKY final payments under the present contractual arrangements.But in advance of the scheduled time to pay. And do you forget the 90% of all home games to be played at Odsal, and the Contingent liability clause that comes into the equation to the lease holder (ie RFL) which means the Bulls have to play 13 (12.6 for TVof Rs benefit) games at home, under our present 28 league game structure. That's what I assume the written words meant anyway... I remain to be totally convinced in the RFL as the benefactor you seem to think they are: Besides which , in the Negotiaters game. You do not take the side of the seller if you are the Buyer! And vice-a-versa. That's fatal if you want a good deal.> The only time sides can be taken is when a satisfactory deal is concluded. And remember that deal is to be conditional on both parties being happy with how it pans out, with mutual benefit all round. Notice I used the word conditional, swap that for concessions. Now you tell me from what we have heard have the RFL made any concessions? I admire the patience of the buyers...most buyers I have known would have walked out on the sellers, and reported them to the office of fair trading after suffering the contemt we seem to have heard. As they haven't taken this stance (to my knowledge anyway) we can only assume we are hearing a lot of flap doodle or shim sham, from many angles, and sources. May I ask.for a neutrality in our posts. We are only serving to add a lot of fuel to a fire that none of us lit. The blame game get's us nowhere. raisemeup
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3:37pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Steampig says...

see they have amended the headlinr to read Bradford players "paid" this months wages. really was a bit of a non story, given that it also stated that thet were actually being paid all be it a day late. talk about trying to be sensationalist, thought that was the preserve of some of the nationals. Regardless though i agree with may of the above posts when they say that the communication to the players has been poor. The palyers deserve to be kept firmly at the forefront when it comes to information,after all it relates directly to their livelihoods. they should not be recieving news from third parties.
see they have amended the headlinr to read Bradford players "paid" this months wages. really was a bit of a non story, given that it also stated that thet were actually being paid all be it a day late. talk about trying to be sensationalist, thought that was the preserve of some of the nationals. Regardless though i agree with may of the above posts when they say that the communication to the players has been poor. The palyers deserve to be kept firmly at the forefront when it comes to information,after all it relates directly to their livelihoods. they should not be recieving news from third parties. Steampig
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3:42pm Tue 14 Aug 12

raisemeup says...

scandanavian's love child52 wrote:
RFL would just let Ganson do final
That's good that, talk about irony????
Priceless.
[quote][p][bold]scandanavian's love child52[/bold] wrote: RFL would just let Ganson do final[/p][/quote]That's good that, talk about irony???? Priceless. raisemeup
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3:44pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Eddie Tees says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Eddie Tees wrote:
Reality50 wrote: 3 more games left then kick them out of SL.Come back Halifax all is forgiven.
Come back Halifax? Long long time before they are fit for SL
You don't see the irony in that remark as a Bulls fan. The Bulls are far from in a position to say who is and isn't fit for Super League.
Good to see you answering for other people now. Forgive me but I have no recollection of suggesting who should and should not be in SL. It is my opinion it will be a long time before Halifax are fit for SL with or without the Bulls - T@sser
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eddie Tees[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: 3 more games left then kick them out of SL.Come back Halifax all is forgiven.[/p][/quote]Come back Halifax? Long long time before they are fit for SL[/p][/quote]You don't see the irony in that remark as a Bulls fan. The Bulls are far from in a position to say who is and isn't fit for Super League.[/p][/quote]Good to see you answering for other people now. Forgive me but I have no recollection of suggesting who should and should not be in SL. It is my opinion it will be a long time before Halifax are fit for SL with or without the Bulls - T@sser Eddie Tees
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3:59pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Eddie Tees wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Eddie Tees wrote:
Reality50 wrote: 3 more games left then kick them out of SL.Come back Halifax all is forgiven.
Come back Halifax? Long long time before they are fit for SL
You don't see the irony in that remark as a Bulls fan. The Bulls are far from in a position to say who is and isn't fit for Super League.
Good to see you answering for other people now. Forgive me but I have no recollection of suggesting who should and should not be in SL. It is my opinion it will be a long time before Halifax are fit for SL with or without the Bulls - T@sser
As it stands, Halifax are in a better situation to be a Super League team than the Bulls.
[quote][p][bold]Eddie Tees[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eddie Tees[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: 3 more games left then kick them out of SL.Come back Halifax all is forgiven.[/p][/quote]Come back Halifax? Long long time before they are fit for SL[/p][/quote]You don't see the irony in that remark as a Bulls fan. The Bulls are far from in a position to say who is and isn't fit for Super League.[/p][/quote]Good to see you answering for other people now. Forgive me but I have no recollection of suggesting who should and should not be in SL. It is my opinion it will be a long time before Halifax are fit for SL with or without the Bulls - T@sser[/p][/quote]As it stands, Halifax are in a better situation to be a Super League team than the Bulls. Thee Voice of Reason
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4:05pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

raisemeup wrote:
Bacon Bantam wrote:
Eddie Tees wrote:
Bacon Bantam wrote:
Tatecastre wrote: The same statement applies to the RFL, treating players, like this. Nothing but contempt. Are they trying to save the Bulls or not?
Once again, why is it up to the RFL to save the Bulls, they didn't create this mess. As the players are going to be paid this story helps no one.
As a number of people have stated - the players will be paid, the RFL have agreed to that. T&A working for Gargoyl and Voldermort Caisley here?. Trying to mix up trouble. Yes, a none story. Disgusting way to treat the players though, who have been nothing short of amazing all through this sorry affair. BB why do you hate the Bulls so much? I can only think it's jealousy because of the wonderfull support we get from the council and they did not want to know when it came to helping you! Good to see the sporting section of our community supporting each other!
I don't hate the Bulls. Just because I point out that the RFL are not at fault for the mess the Bulls find themselves in and that the job of an administrator is to find the best deal for creditors somehow I'm seen to hate the Bulls. I don't get it. What I don't like is the number of people on here who slate the administator and the RFL as if it is all their fault, they seem to think the club is owed something from these when in reality the club owes alot to the people at the RFL for still existing in some form as of today. I've seen this at VP twice and both times is was awful so I know what this feels like, I'm just sick of all the fans sniping at those who are actually trying to help. How many other super league clubs are having wages paid by the RFL? Be thankful of the help is all I say, not slate the helpers whenever you can.
One or two misconceptions here? For a start the Money advanced to the Bulls. I understand is the SKY final payments under the present contractual arrangements.But in advance of the scheduled time to pay. And do you forget the 90% of all home games to be played at Odsal, and the Contingent liability clause that comes into the equation to the lease holder (ie RFL) which means the Bulls have to play 13 (12.6 for TVof Rs benefit) games at home, under our present 28 league game structure. That's what I assume the written words meant anyway... I remain to be totally convinced in the RFL as the benefactor you seem to think they are: Besides which , in the Negotiaters game. You do not take the side of the seller if you are the Buyer! And vice-a-versa. That's fatal if you want a good deal.> The only time sides can be taken is when a satisfactory deal is concluded. And remember that deal is to be conditional on both parties being happy with how it pans out, with mutual benefit all round. Notice I used the word conditional, swap that for concessions. Now you tell me from what we have heard have the RFL made any concessions? I admire the patience of the buyers...most buyers I have known would have walked out on the sellers, and reported them to the office of fair trading after suffering the contemt we seem to have heard. As they haven't taken this stance (to my knowledge anyway) we can only assume we are hearing a lot of flap doodle or shim sham, from many angles, and sources. May I ask.for a neutrality in our posts. We are only serving to add a lot of fuel to a fire that none of us lit. The blame game get's us nowhere.
You do know the league is 27 games long and not 28. 13 at home, 13 away and 1 neutral magic weekend game.
[quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bacon Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eddie Tees[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bacon Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tatecastre[/bold] wrote: The same statement applies to the RFL, treating players, like this. Nothing but contempt. Are they trying to save the Bulls or not?[/p][/quote]Once again, why is it up to the RFL to save the Bulls, they didn't create this mess. As the players are going to be paid this story helps no one.[/p][/quote]As a number of people have stated - the players will be paid, the RFL have agreed to that. T&A working for Gargoyl and Voldermort Caisley here?. Trying to mix up trouble. Yes, a none story. Disgusting way to treat the players though, who have been nothing short of amazing all through this sorry affair. BB why do you hate the Bulls so much? I can only think it's jealousy because of the wonderfull support we get from the council and they did not want to know when it came to helping you! Good to see the sporting section of our community supporting each other![/p][/quote]I don't hate the Bulls. Just because I point out that the RFL are not at fault for the mess the Bulls find themselves in and that the job of an administrator is to find the best deal for creditors somehow I'm seen to hate the Bulls. I don't get it. What I don't like is the number of people on here who slate the administator and the RFL as if it is all their fault, they seem to think the club is owed something from these when in reality the club owes alot to the people at the RFL for still existing in some form as of today. I've seen this at VP twice and both times is was awful so I know what this feels like, I'm just sick of all the fans sniping at those who are actually trying to help. How many other super league clubs are having wages paid by the RFL? Be thankful of the help is all I say, not slate the helpers whenever you can.[/p][/quote]One or two misconceptions here? For a start the Money advanced to the Bulls. I understand is the SKY final payments under the present contractual arrangements.But in advance of the scheduled time to pay. And do you forget the 90% of all home games to be played at Odsal, and the Contingent liability clause that comes into the equation to the lease holder (ie RFL) which means the Bulls have to play 13 (12.6 for TVof Rs benefit) games at home, under our present 28 league game structure. That's what I assume the written words meant anyway... I remain to be totally convinced in the RFL as the benefactor you seem to think they are: Besides which , in the Negotiaters game. You do not take the side of the seller if you are the Buyer! And vice-a-versa. That's fatal if you want a good deal.> The only time sides can be taken is when a satisfactory deal is concluded. And remember that deal is to be conditional on both parties being happy with how it pans out, with mutual benefit all round. Notice I used the word conditional, swap that for concessions. Now you tell me from what we have heard have the RFL made any concessions? I admire the patience of the buyers...most buyers I have known would have walked out on the sellers, and reported them to the office of fair trading after suffering the contemt we seem to have heard. As they haven't taken this stance (to my knowledge anyway) we can only assume we are hearing a lot of flap doodle or shim sham, from many angles, and sources. May I ask.for a neutrality in our posts. We are only serving to add a lot of fuel to a fire that none of us lit. The blame game get's us nowhere.[/p][/quote]You do know the league is 27 games long and not 28. 13 at home, 13 away and 1 neutral magic weekend game. Thee Voice of Reason
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4:08pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Eddie Tees says...

Of course they are! - what with that fantastic fan base of oh must be upwards of 500! They would bring so much to the table.
If you actually read what people put on here (some people anyway) instead of saying the first thought that comes into your head (bit like my 5 year old does!) You would see that not once have I said we SHOULD stay in SL. I would LIKE us to, that goes without saying. But to suggest Halifax are in a better situation than the Bulls is nothing short of.....mental!
What will be will be for the Bulls and I will follow them where ever, even to the Shay.But for the love of God and the good of our game do not put Halifax in SL
Of course they are! - what with that fantastic fan base of oh must be upwards of 500! They would bring so much to the table. If you actually read what people put on here (some people anyway) instead of saying the first thought that comes into your head (bit like my 5 year old does!) You would see that not once have I said we SHOULD stay in SL. I would LIKE us to, that goes without saying. But to suggest Halifax are in a better situation than the Bulls is nothing short of.....mental! What will be will be for the Bulls and I will follow them where ever, even to the Shay.But for the love of God and the good of our game do not put Halifax in SL Eddie Tees
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4:12pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Sheffieldbull says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Eddie Tees wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Eddie Tees wrote:
Reality50 wrote: 3 more games left then kick them out of SL.Come back Halifax all is forgiven.
Come back Halifax? Long long time before they are fit for SL
You don't see the irony in that remark as a Bulls fan. The Bulls are far from in a position to say who is and isn't fit for Super League.
Good to see you answering for other people now. Forgive me but I have no recollection of suggesting who should and should not be in SL. It is my opinion it will be a long time before Halifax are fit for SL with or without the Bulls - T@sser
As it stands, Halifax are in a better situation to be a Super League team than the Bulls.
And you know this how exactly? Is this based on the rumours that Fax showed a small operating profit 2010/11? Or your detailed knowledge of their players coupled with insight into their finances going forward? Please supply details or end your comment with 'IN MY OPINION'! Thank you.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eddie Tees[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eddie Tees[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: 3 more games left then kick them out of SL.Come back Halifax all is forgiven.[/p][/quote]Come back Halifax? Long long time before they are fit for SL[/p][/quote]You don't see the irony in that remark as a Bulls fan. The Bulls are far from in a position to say who is and isn't fit for Super League.[/p][/quote]Good to see you answering for other people now. Forgive me but I have no recollection of suggesting who should and should not be in SL. It is my opinion it will be a long time before Halifax are fit for SL with or without the Bulls - T@sser[/p][/quote]As it stands, Halifax are in a better situation to be a Super League team than the Bulls.[/p][/quote]And you know this how exactly? Is this based on the rumours that Fax showed a small operating profit 2010/11? Or your detailed knowledge of their players coupled with insight into their finances going forward? Please supply details or end your comment with 'IN MY OPINION'! Thank you. Sheffieldbull
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4:13pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Mumby was the best says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Eddie Tees wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Eddie Tees wrote:
Reality50 wrote: 3 more games left then kick them out of SL.Come back Halifax all is forgiven.
Come back Halifax? Long long time before they are fit for SL
You don't see the irony in that remark as a Bulls fan. The Bulls are far from in a position to say who is and isn't fit for Super League.
Good to see you answering for other people now. Forgive me but I have no recollection of suggesting who should and should not be in SL. It is my opinion it will be a long time before Halifax are fit for SL with or without the Bulls - T@sser
As it stands, Halifax are in a better situation to be a Super League team than the Bulls.
Pass me a new rib I just broke one laughing
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eddie Tees[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eddie Tees[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: 3 more games left then kick them out of SL.Come back Halifax all is forgiven.[/p][/quote]Come back Halifax? Long long time before they are fit for SL[/p][/quote]You don't see the irony in that remark as a Bulls fan. The Bulls are far from in a position to say who is and isn't fit for Super League.[/p][/quote]Good to see you answering for other people now. Forgive me but I have no recollection of suggesting who should and should not be in SL. It is my opinion it will be a long time before Halifax are fit for SL with or without the Bulls - T@sser[/p][/quote]As it stands, Halifax are in a better situation to be a Super League team than the Bulls.[/p][/quote]Pass me a new rib I just broke one laughing Mumby was the best
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4:22pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

It's based on the fact that the Bulls are out with their begging bowl and have been since March and are in administration, infact the Cougars are in a better position at present to compete in Super League than the Bulls currently are.

It's fact.

After a takeover maybe the Bulls will be capable of being a Super League club but as of today they aren't.
It's based on the fact that the Bulls are out with their begging bowl and have been since March and are in administration, infact the Cougars are in a better position at present to compete in Super League than the Bulls currently are. It's fact. After a takeover maybe the Bulls will be capable of being a Super League club but as of today they aren't. Thee Voice of Reason
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4:24pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Mumby was the best wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Eddie Tees wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Eddie Tees wrote:
Reality50 wrote: 3 more games left then kick them out of SL.Come back Halifax all is forgiven.
Come back Halifax? Long long time before they are fit for SL
You don't see the irony in that remark as a Bulls fan. The Bulls are far from in a position to say who is and isn't fit for Super League.
Good to see you answering for other people now. Forgive me but I have no recollection of suggesting who should and should not be in SL. It is my opinion it will be a long time before Halifax are fit for SL with or without the Bulls - T@sser
As it stands, Halifax are in a better situation to be a Super League team than the Bulls.
Pass me a new rib I just broke one laughing
The Bulls have no assets or money, and for months it's been unknown if they would make the end of the season so tell me how the Bulls are more suitable at present of being a Super League club.
[quote][p][bold]Mumby was the best[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eddie Tees[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eddie Tees[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: 3 more games left then kick them out of SL.Come back Halifax all is forgiven.[/p][/quote]Come back Halifax? Long long time before they are fit for SL[/p][/quote]You don't see the irony in that remark as a Bulls fan. The Bulls are far from in a position to say who is and isn't fit for Super League.[/p][/quote]Good to see you answering for other people now. Forgive me but I have no recollection of suggesting who should and should not be in SL. It is my opinion it will be a long time before Halifax are fit for SL with or without the Bulls - T@sser[/p][/quote]As it stands, Halifax are in a better situation to be a Super League team than the Bulls.[/p][/quote]Pass me a new rib I just broke one laughing[/p][/quote]The Bulls have no assets or money, and for months it's been unknown if they would make the end of the season so tell me how the Bulls are more suitable at present of being a Super League club. Thee Voice of Reason
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4:26pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Mumby was the best says...

infact the Cougars are in a better position at present to compete in Super League than the Bulls currently are.


I`ve just broke another rib, stop this before I die laughing
infact the Cougars are in a better position at present to compete in Super League than the Bulls currently are. I`ve just broke another rib, stop this before I die laughing Mumby was the best
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4:33pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Sheffieldbull wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Eddie Tees wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Eddie Tees wrote:
Reality50 wrote: 3 more games left then kick them out of SL.Come back Halifax all is forgiven.
Come back Halifax? Long long time before they are fit for SL
You don't see the irony in that remark as a Bulls fan. The Bulls are far from in a position to say who is and isn't fit for Super League.
Good to see you answering for other people now. Forgive me but I have no recollection of suggesting who should and should not be in SL. It is my opinion it will be a long time before Halifax are fit for SL with or without the Bulls - T@sser
As it stands, Halifax are in a better situation to be a Super League team than the Bulls.
And you know this how exactly? Is this based on the rumours that Fax showed a small operating profit 2010/11? Or your detailed knowledge of their players coupled with insight into their finances going forward? Please supply details or end your comment with 'IN MY OPINION'! Thank you.
Halifax are currently trading within their means, as the Bulls are in admin we know they aren't therefore there is the proof you need to know that as of today, Halifax are in a better position than the Bulls to compete.

I don't think there are any questions over Halifax's ability to complete next season which ever league they find themselves, you can't say that about the Bulls.
[quote][p][bold]Sheffieldbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eddie Tees[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eddie Tees[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: 3 more games left then kick them out of SL.Come back Halifax all is forgiven.[/p][/quote]Come back Halifax? Long long time before they are fit for SL[/p][/quote]You don't see the irony in that remark as a Bulls fan. The Bulls are far from in a position to say who is and isn't fit for Super League.[/p][/quote]Good to see you answering for other people now. Forgive me but I have no recollection of suggesting who should and should not be in SL. It is my opinion it will be a long time before Halifax are fit for SL with or without the Bulls - T@sser[/p][/quote]As it stands, Halifax are in a better situation to be a Super League team than the Bulls.[/p][/quote]And you know this how exactly? Is this based on the rumours that Fax showed a small operating profit 2010/11? Or your detailed knowledge of their players coupled with insight into their finances going forward? Please supply details or end your comment with 'IN MY OPINION'! Thank you.[/p][/quote]Halifax are currently trading within their means, as the Bulls are in admin we know they aren't therefore there is the proof you need to know that as of today, Halifax are in a better position than the Bulls to compete. I don't think there are any questions over Halifax's ability to complete next season which ever league they find themselves, you can't say that about the Bulls. Thee Voice of Reason
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4:36pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Sheffieldbull says...

Oh dear! There's going to be a major shortage of ribs at this rate! TVoR - priceless, what knowlege you do have - emm! None!
Oh dear! There's going to be a major shortage of ribs at this rate! TVoR - priceless, what knowlege you do have - emm! None! Sheffieldbull
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4:37pm Tue 14 Aug 12

raisemeup says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
Bacon Bantam wrote:
Eddie Tees wrote:
Bacon Bantam wrote:
Tatecastre wrote: The same statement applies to the RFL, treating players, like this. Nothing but contempt. Are they trying to save the Bulls or not?
Once again, why is it up to the RFL to save the Bulls, they didn't create this mess. As the players are going to be paid this story helps no one.
As a number of people have stated - the players will be paid, the RFL have agreed to that. T&A working for Gargoyl and Voldermort Caisley here?. Trying to mix up trouble. Yes, a none story. Disgusting way to treat the players though, who have been nothing short of amazing all through this sorry affair. BB why do you hate the Bulls so much? I can only think it's jealousy because of the wonderfull support we get from the council and they did not want to know when it came to helping you! Good to see the sporting section of our community supporting each other!
I don't hate the Bulls. Just because I point out that the RFL are not at fault for the mess the Bulls find themselves in and that the job of an administrator is to find the best deal for creditors somehow I'm seen to hate the Bulls. I don't get it. What I don't like is the number of people on here who slate the administator and the RFL as if it is all their fault, they seem to think the club is owed something from these when in reality the club owes alot to the people at the RFL for still existing in some form as of today. I've seen this at VP twice and both times is was awful so I know what this feels like, I'm just sick of all the fans sniping at those who are actually trying to help. How many other super league clubs are having wages paid by the RFL? Be thankful of the help is all I say, not slate the helpers whenever you can.
One or two misconceptions here? For a start the Money advanced to the Bulls. I understand is the SKY final payments under the present contractual arrangements.But in advance of the scheduled time to pay. And do you forget the 90% of all home games to be played at Odsal, and the Contingent liability clause that comes into the equation to the lease holder (ie RFL) which means the Bulls have to play 13 (12.6 for TVof Rs benefit) games at home, under our present 28 league game structure. That's what I assume the written words meant anyway... I remain to be totally convinced in the RFL as the benefactor you seem to think they are: Besides which , in the Negotiaters game. You do not take the side of the seller if you are the Buyer! And vice-a-versa. That's fatal if you want a good deal.> The only time sides can be taken is when a satisfactory deal is concluded. And remember that deal is to be conditional on both parties being happy with how it pans out, with mutual benefit all round. Notice I used the word conditional, swap that for concessions. Now you tell me from what we have heard have the RFL made any concessions? I admire the patience of the buyers...most buyers I have known would have walked out on the sellers, and reported them to the office of fair trading after suffering the contemt we seem to have heard. As they haven't taken this stance (to my knowledge anyway) we can only assume we are hearing a lot of flap doodle or shim sham, from many angles, and sources. May I ask.for a neutrality in our posts. We are only serving to add a lot of fuel to a fire that none of us lit. The blame game get's us nowhere.
You do know the league is 27 games long and not 28. 13 at home, 13 away and 1 neutral magic weekend game.
I have a hair I wish you to split????

PS The league is 28 games long. Bradford Bulls theoretically had the home advantage and played in our home kit.

No more pointless garbage please.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bacon Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eddie Tees[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bacon Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tatecastre[/bold] wrote: The same statement applies to the RFL, treating players, like this. Nothing but contempt. Are they trying to save the Bulls or not?[/p][/quote]Once again, why is it up to the RFL to save the Bulls, they didn't create this mess. As the players are going to be paid this story helps no one.[/p][/quote]As a number of people have stated - the players will be paid, the RFL have agreed to that. T&A working for Gargoyl and Voldermort Caisley here?. Trying to mix up trouble. Yes, a none story. Disgusting way to treat the players though, who have been nothing short of amazing all through this sorry affair. BB why do you hate the Bulls so much? I can only think it's jealousy because of the wonderfull support we get from the council and they did not want to know when it came to helping you! Good to see the sporting section of our community supporting each other![/p][/quote]I don't hate the Bulls. Just because I point out that the RFL are not at fault for the mess the Bulls find themselves in and that the job of an administrator is to find the best deal for creditors somehow I'm seen to hate the Bulls. I don't get it. What I don't like is the number of people on here who slate the administator and the RFL as if it is all their fault, they seem to think the club is owed something from these when in reality the club owes alot to the people at the RFL for still existing in some form as of today. I've seen this at VP twice and both times is was awful so I know what this feels like, I'm just sick of all the fans sniping at those who are actually trying to help. How many other super league clubs are having wages paid by the RFL? Be thankful of the help is all I say, not slate the helpers whenever you can.[/p][/quote]One or two misconceptions here? For a start the Money advanced to the Bulls. I understand is the SKY final payments under the present contractual arrangements.But in advance of the scheduled time to pay. And do you forget the 90% of all home games to be played at Odsal, and the Contingent liability clause that comes into the equation to the lease holder (ie RFL) which means the Bulls have to play 13 (12.6 for TVof Rs benefit) games at home, under our present 28 league game structure. That's what I assume the written words meant anyway... I remain to be totally convinced in the RFL as the benefactor you seem to think they are: Besides which , in the Negotiaters game. You do not take the side of the seller if you are the Buyer! And vice-a-versa. That's fatal if you want a good deal.> The only time sides can be taken is when a satisfactory deal is concluded. And remember that deal is to be conditional on both parties being happy with how it pans out, with mutual benefit all round. Notice I used the word conditional, swap that for concessions. Now you tell me from what we have heard have the RFL made any concessions? I admire the patience of the buyers...most buyers I have known would have walked out on the sellers, and reported them to the office of fair trading after suffering the contemt we seem to have heard. As they haven't taken this stance (to my knowledge anyway) we can only assume we are hearing a lot of flap doodle or shim sham, from many angles, and sources. May I ask.for a neutrality in our posts. We are only serving to add a lot of fuel to a fire that none of us lit. The blame game get's us nowhere.[/p][/quote]You do know the league is 27 games long and not 28. 13 at home, 13 away and 1 neutral magic weekend game.[/p][/quote]I have a hair I wish you to split???? PS The league is 28 games long. Bradford Bulls theoretically had the home advantage and played in our home kit. No more pointless garbage please. raisemeup
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4:45pm Tue 14 Aug 12

O ye of little faith says...

I think that Raise Me Up has got the situation correct the money from the RFL to fund the players wages is advance payment from the Sky payments,so its good of them to pay it now but they will be getting the money back from Sky eventually.On another subject has anyone tried to purchase tickets for Sundays game from Odsal?I did today and was told that Huddersfield havent supplied any and you can only buy tickets through the Giants ticket office or on line by their web site! If you dont buy in advance by this method the price will increase by £3 on match day.Why they couldnt provide tickets as they normally do is beyond me or did they announce this earlier and I missed it?
I think that Raise Me Up has got the situation correct the money from the RFL to fund the players wages is advance payment from the Sky payments,so its good of them to pay it now but they will be getting the money back from Sky eventually.On another subject has anyone tried to purchase tickets for Sundays game from Odsal?I did today and was told that Huddersfield havent supplied any and you can only buy tickets through the Giants ticket office or on line by their web site! If you dont buy in advance by this method the price will increase by £3 on match day.Why they couldnt provide tickets as they normally do is beyond me or did they announce this earlier and I missed it? O ye of little faith
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4:45pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

raisemeup wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
Bacon Bantam wrote:
Eddie Tees wrote:
Bacon Bantam wrote:
Tatecastre wrote: The same statement applies to the RFL, treating players, like this. Nothing but contempt. Are they trying to save the Bulls or not?
Once again, why is it up to the RFL to save the Bulls, they didn't create this mess. As the players are going to be paid this story helps no one.
As a number of people have stated - the players will be paid, the RFL have agreed to that. T&A working for Gargoyl and Voldermort Caisley here?. Trying to mix up trouble. Yes, a none story. Disgusting way to treat the players though, who have been nothing short of amazing all through this sorry affair. BB why do you hate the Bulls so much? I can only think it's jealousy because of the wonderfull support we get from the council and they did not want to know when it came to helping you! Good to see the sporting section of our community supporting each other!
I don't hate the Bulls. Just because I point out that the RFL are not at fault for the mess the Bulls find themselves in and that the job of an administrator is to find the best deal for creditors somehow I'm seen to hate the Bulls. I don't get it. What I don't like is the number of people on here who slate the administator and the RFL as if it is all their fault, they seem to think the club is owed something from these when in reality the club owes alot to the people at the RFL for still existing in some form as of today. I've seen this at VP twice and both times is was awful so I know what this feels like, I'm just sick of all the fans sniping at those who are actually trying to help. How many other super league clubs are having wages paid by the RFL? Be thankful of the help is all I say, not slate the helpers whenever you can.
One or two misconceptions here? For a start the Money advanced to the Bulls. I understand is the SKY final payments under the present contractual arrangements.But in advance of the scheduled time to pay. And do you forget the 90% of all home games to be played at Odsal, and the Contingent liability clause that comes into the equation to the lease holder (ie RFL) which means the Bulls have to play 13 (12.6 for TVof Rs benefit) games at home, under our present 28 league game structure. That's what I assume the written words meant anyway... I remain to be totally convinced in the RFL as the benefactor you seem to think they are: Besides which , in the Negotiaters game. You do not take the side of the seller if you are the Buyer! And vice-a-versa. That's fatal if you want a good deal.> The only time sides can be taken is when a satisfactory deal is concluded. And remember that deal is to be conditional on both parties being happy with how it pans out, with mutual benefit all round. Notice I used the word conditional, swap that for concessions. Now you tell me from what we have heard have the RFL made any concessions? I admire the patience of the buyers...most buyers I have known would have walked out on the sellers, and reported them to the office of fair trading after suffering the contemt we seem to have heard. As they haven't taken this stance (to my knowledge anyway) we can only assume we are hearing a lot of flap doodle or shim sham, from many angles, and sources. May I ask.for a neutrality in our posts. We are only serving to add a lot of fuel to a fire that none of us lit. The blame game get's us nowhere.
You do know the league is 27 games long and not 28. 13 at home, 13 away and 1 neutral magic weekend game.
I have a hair I wish you to split???? PS The league is 28 games long. Bradford Bulls theoretically had the home advantage and played in our home kit. No more pointless garbage please.
The league is 27 games long.

There have been 24 games played and the Bulls have 3 games left, Huddersfield, Hull and Catalans.

Thats 27 games. Where is this 28th game you refer to?
[quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bacon Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eddie Tees[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bacon Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tatecastre[/bold] wrote: The same statement applies to the RFL, treating players, like this. Nothing but contempt. Are they trying to save the Bulls or not?[/p][/quote]Once again, why is it up to the RFL to save the Bulls, they didn't create this mess. As the players are going to be paid this story helps no one.[/p][/quote]As a number of people have stated - the players will be paid, the RFL have agreed to that. T&A working for Gargoyl and Voldermort Caisley here?. Trying to mix up trouble. Yes, a none story. Disgusting way to treat the players though, who have been nothing short of amazing all through this sorry affair. BB why do you hate the Bulls so much? I can only think it's jealousy because of the wonderfull support we get from the council and they did not want to know when it came to helping you! Good to see the sporting section of our community supporting each other![/p][/quote]I don't hate the Bulls. Just because I point out that the RFL are not at fault for the mess the Bulls find themselves in and that the job of an administrator is to find the best deal for creditors somehow I'm seen to hate the Bulls. I don't get it. What I don't like is the number of people on here who slate the administator and the RFL as if it is all their fault, they seem to think the club is owed something from these when in reality the club owes alot to the people at the RFL for still existing in some form as of today. I've seen this at VP twice and both times is was awful so I know what this feels like, I'm just sick of all the fans sniping at those who are actually trying to help. How many other super league clubs are having wages paid by the RFL? Be thankful of the help is all I say, not slate the helpers whenever you can.[/p][/quote]One or two misconceptions here? For a start the Money advanced to the Bulls. I understand is the SKY final payments under the present contractual arrangements.But in advance of the scheduled time to pay. And do you forget the 90% of all home games to be played at Odsal, and the Contingent liability clause that comes into the equation to the lease holder (ie RFL) which means the Bulls have to play 13 (12.6 for TVof Rs benefit) games at home, under our present 28 league game structure. That's what I assume the written words meant anyway... I remain to be totally convinced in the RFL as the benefactor you seem to think they are: Besides which , in the Negotiaters game. You do not take the side of the seller if you are the Buyer! And vice-a-versa. That's fatal if you want a good deal.> The only time sides can be taken is when a satisfactory deal is concluded. And remember that deal is to be conditional on both parties being happy with how it pans out, with mutual benefit all round. Notice I used the word conditional, swap that for concessions. Now you tell me from what we have heard have the RFL made any concessions? I admire the patience of the buyers...most buyers I have known would have walked out on the sellers, and reported them to the office of fair trading after suffering the contemt we seem to have heard. As they haven't taken this stance (to my knowledge anyway) we can only assume we are hearing a lot of flap doodle or shim sham, from many angles, and sources. May I ask.for a neutrality in our posts. We are only serving to add a lot of fuel to a fire that none of us lit. The blame game get's us nowhere.[/p][/quote]You do know the league is 27 games long and not 28. 13 at home, 13 away and 1 neutral magic weekend game.[/p][/quote]I have a hair I wish you to split???? PS The league is 28 games long. Bradford Bulls theoretically had the home advantage and played in our home kit. No more pointless garbage please.[/p][/quote]The league is 27 games long. There have been 24 games played and the Bulls have 3 games left, Huddersfield, Hull and Catalans. Thats 27 games. Where is this 28th game you refer to? Thee Voice of Reason
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4:47pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Sheffieldbull wrote:
Oh dear! There's going to be a major shortage of ribs at this rate! TVoR - priceless, what knowlege you do have - emm! None!
I know the league season is 27 games long, which appears to be more than some know.
[quote][p][bold]Sheffieldbull[/bold] wrote: Oh dear! There's going to be a major shortage of ribs at this rate! TVoR - priceless, what knowlege you do have - emm! None![/p][/quote]I know the league season is 27 games long, which appears to be more than some know. Thee Voice of Reason
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4:48pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Mumby was the best says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
Bacon Bantam wrote:
Eddie Tees wrote:
Bacon Bantam wrote:
Tatecastre wrote: The same statement applies to the RFL, treating players, like this. Nothing but contempt. Are they trying to save the Bulls or not?
Once again, why is it up to the RFL to save the Bulls, they didn't create this mess. As the players are going to be paid this story helps no one.
As a number of people have stated - the players will be paid, the RFL have agreed to that. T&A working for Gargoyl and Voldermort Caisley here?. Trying to mix up trouble. Yes, a none story. Disgusting way to treat the players though, who have been nothing short of amazing all through this sorry affair. BB why do you hate the Bulls so much? I can only think it's jealousy because of the wonderfull support we get from the council and they did not want to know when it came to helping you! Good to see the sporting section of our community supporting each other!
I don't hate the Bulls. Just because I point out that the RFL are not at fault for the mess the Bulls find themselves in and that the job of an administrator is to find the best deal for creditors somehow I'm seen to hate the Bulls. I don't get it. What I don't like is the number of people on here who slate the administator and the RFL as if it is all their fault, they seem to think the club is owed something from these when in reality the club owes alot to the people at the RFL for still existing in some form as of today. I've seen this at VP twice and both times is was awful so I know what this feels like, I'm just sick of all the fans sniping at those who are actually trying to help. How many other super league clubs are having wages paid by the RFL? Be thankful of the help is all I say, not slate the helpers whenever you can.
One or two misconceptions here? For a start the Money advanced to the Bulls. I understand is the SKY final payments under the present contractual arrangements.But in advance of the scheduled time to pay. And do you forget the 90% of all home games to be played at Odsal, and the Contingent liability clause that comes into the equation to the lease holder (ie RFL) which means the Bulls have to play 13 (12.6 for TVof Rs benefit) games at home, under our present 28 league game structure. That's what I assume the written words meant anyway... I remain to be totally convinced in the RFL as the benefactor you seem to think they are: Besides which , in the Negotiaters game. You do not take the side of the seller if you are the Buyer! And vice-a-versa. That's fatal if you want a good deal.> The only time sides can be taken is when a satisfactory deal is concluded. And remember that deal is to be conditional on both parties being happy with how it pans out, with mutual benefit all round. Notice I used the word conditional, swap that for concessions. Now you tell me from what we have heard have the RFL made any concessions? I admire the patience of the buyers...most buyers I have known would have walked out on the sellers, and reported them to the office of fair trading after suffering the contemt we seem to have heard. As they haven't taken this stance (to my knowledge anyway) we can only assume we are hearing a lot of flap doodle or shim sham, from many angles, and sources. May I ask.for a neutrality in our posts. We are only serving to add a lot of fuel to a fire that none of us lit. The blame game get's us nowhere.
You do know the league is 27 games long and not 28. 13 at home, 13 away and 1 neutral magic weekend game.
I have a hair I wish you to split???? PS The league is 28 games long. Bradford Bulls theoretically had the home advantage and played in our home kit. No more pointless garbage please.
The league is 27 games long.

There have been 24 games played and the Bulls have 3 games left, Huddersfield, Hull and Catalans.

Thats 27 games. Where is this 28th game you refer to?
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[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bacon Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eddie Tees[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bacon Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tatecastre[/bold] wrote: The same statement applies to the RFL, treating players, like this. Nothing but contempt. Are they trying to save the Bulls or not?[/p][/quote]Once again, why is it up to the RFL to save the Bulls, they didn't create this mess. As the players are going to be paid this story helps no one.[/p][/quote]As a number of people have stated - the players will be paid, the RFL have agreed to that. T&A working for Gargoyl and Voldermort Caisley here?. Trying to mix up trouble. Yes, a none story. Disgusting way to treat the players though, who have been nothing short of amazing all through this sorry affair. BB why do you hate the Bulls so much? I can only think it's jealousy because of the wonderfull support we get from the council and they did not want to know when it came to helping you! Good to see the sporting section of our community supporting each other![/p][/quote]I don't hate the Bulls. Just because I point out that the RFL are not at fault for the mess the Bulls find themselves in and that the job of an administrator is to find the best deal for creditors somehow I'm seen to hate the Bulls. I don't get it. What I don't like is the number of people on here who slate the administator and the RFL as if it is all their fault, they seem to think the club is owed something from these when in reality the club owes alot to the people at the RFL for still existing in some form as of today. I've seen this at VP twice and both times is was awful so I know what this feels like, I'm just sick of all the fans sniping at those who are actually trying to help. How many other super league clubs are having wages paid by the RFL? Be thankful of the help is all I say, not slate the helpers whenever you can.[/p][/quote]One or two misconceptions here? For a start the Money advanced to the Bulls. I understand is the SKY final payments under the present contractual arrangements.But in advance of the scheduled time to pay. And do you forget the 90% of all home games to be played at Odsal, and the Contingent liability clause that comes into the equation to the lease holder (ie RFL) which means the Bulls have to play 13 (12.6 for TVof Rs benefit) games at home, under our present 28 league game structure. That's what I assume the written words meant anyway... I remain to be totally convinced in the RFL as the benefactor you seem to think they are: Besides which , in the Negotiaters game. You do not take the side of the seller if you are the Buyer! And vice-a-versa. That's fatal if you want a good deal.> The only time sides can be taken is when a satisfactory deal is concluded. And remember that deal is to be conditional on both parties being happy with how it pans out, with mutual benefit all round. Notice I used the word conditional, swap that for concessions. Now you tell me from what we have heard have the RFL made any concessions? I admire the patience of the buyers...most buyers I have known would have walked out on the sellers, and reported them to the office of fair trading after suffering the contemt we seem to have heard. As they haven't taken this stance (to my knowledge anyway) we can only assume we are hearing a lot of flap doodle or shim sham, from many angles, and sources. May I ask.for a neutrality in our posts. We are only serving to add a lot of fuel to a fire that none of us lit. The blame game get's us nowhere.[/p][/quote]You do know the league is 27 games long and not 28. 13 at home, 13 away and 1 neutral magic weekend game.[/p][/quote]I have a hair I wish you to split???? PS The league is 28 games long. Bradford Bulls theoretically had the home advantage and played in our home kit. No more pointless garbage please.[/p][/quote]The league is 27 games long. There have been 24 games played and the Bulls have 3 games left, Huddersfield, Hull and Catalans. Thats 27 games. Where is this 28th game you refer to?[/p][/quote]yawn zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzz Mumby was the best
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4:58pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Sheffieldbull says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Sheffieldbull wrote:
Oh dear! There's going to be a major shortage of ribs at this rate! TVoR - priceless, what knowlege you do have - emm! None!
I know the league season is 27 games long, which appears to be more than some know.
Wow! very good you pedant, we'll leave the counting to you, in turn, you leave SL comment to others that talk outta their mouths, if you get what i mean?
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sheffieldbull[/bold] wrote: Oh dear! There's going to be a major shortage of ribs at this rate! TVoR - priceless, what knowlege you do have - emm! None![/p][/quote]I know the league season is 27 games long, which appears to be more than some know.[/p][/quote]Wow! very good you pedant, we'll leave the counting to you, in turn, you leave SL comment to others that talk outta their mouths, if you get what i mean? Sheffieldbull
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5:00pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Sheffieldbull wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Sheffieldbull wrote: Oh dear! There's going to be a major shortage of ribs at this rate! TVoR - priceless, what knowlege you do have - emm! None!
I know the league season is 27 games long, which appears to be more than some know.
Wow! very good you pedant, we'll leave the counting to you, in turn, you leave SL comment to others that talk outta their mouths, if you get what i mean?
Numbers don't appear a strong point for some, same happened with average gates.

It's probably also why some seem to think Bulls should be given a Super League place when they are in massive of debt.

Your right, numbers don't matter.
[quote][p][bold]Sheffieldbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sheffieldbull[/bold] wrote: Oh dear! There's going to be a major shortage of ribs at this rate! TVoR - priceless, what knowlege you do have - emm! None![/p][/quote]I know the league season is 27 games long, which appears to be more than some know.[/p][/quote]Wow! very good you pedant, we'll leave the counting to you, in turn, you leave SL comment to others that talk outta their mouths, if you get what i mean?[/p][/quote]Numbers don't appear a strong point for some, same happened with average gates. It's probably also why some seem to think Bulls should be given a Super League place when they are in massive of debt. Your right, numbers don't matter. Thee Voice of Reason
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5:29pm Tue 14 Aug 12

olicanabull says...

The former directors, the Caisleyites who made a damaging bid without the means to follow up, and the RFL were all complicit in the demise of the Bulls. Why the RFL? Because they are the licensing authority and it seems did not do due diligence on the Bradford application. Being at the match on Friday, seeing the enthusiasm of the crowd and the quality of the team I turned to my neighbour and said it would be madness for this club not to be in superleague next season. If the RFL had the gall to try to relegate them I would hope the other super league clubs would resist such a foolish and self-damaging step. If the club are to lose their place let it be after the next licensing round but only if their application does not meet the criteria. And this time let the RFL do a proper job of evaluating the bids. In any case, the licensing system is farcical if well-intentioned. Let us go back to promotion and relegation and give hope and enthusiasm to the non-superleague clubs
The former directors, the Caisleyites who made a damaging bid without the means to follow up, and the RFL were all complicit in the demise of the Bulls. Why the RFL? Because they are the licensing authority and it seems did not do due diligence on the Bradford application. Being at the match on Friday, seeing the enthusiasm of the crowd and the quality of the team I turned to my neighbour and said it would be madness for this club not to be in superleague next season. If the RFL had the gall to try to relegate them I would hope the other super league clubs would resist such a foolish and self-damaging step. If the club are to lose their place let it be after the next licensing round but only if their application does not meet the criteria. And this time let the RFL do a proper job of evaluating the bids. In any case, the licensing system is farcical if well-intentioned. Let us go back to promotion and relegation and give hope and enthusiasm to the non-superleague clubs olicanabull
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5:48pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Mumby was the best says...

Not only is the licensing system farcical The salary cap is as well. It`s like a speed limit everybody goes to it as tho it is a minimum, and some past it, by hiding the extra amounts by false means.
Not only is the licensing system farcical The salary cap is as well. It`s like a speed limit everybody goes to it as tho it is a minimum, and some past it, by hiding the extra amounts by false means. Mumby was the best
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6:15pm Tue 14 Aug 12

billybobbull says...

Eddie Tees wrote:
Mumby was the best wrote:
billybobbull wrote: I don't quite get all the doom and gloom. It seems this was just an oversight amid all the confusion, between the club and RFL. It is serious, but not the end of the world. The offers are being discussed as I type, and hopefully we have resolution today or tomorrow. Please wait and see what comes out of the meetings today before putting us the Championship. The RFL are bending over backwards to help us, don't forget that. Without their help we would have finished before Easter. Players will be paid, new owner announced, whether temporary or permanent, and we will be in SL next year if all goes to plan!!!
I agree. If we were to be relegated at end of season it does not give much time to replace us with a team that has to rebuild. They could run it with 13 teams but I don`t think that will happen. Maybe relegation looms at the next round of licences.
Who knows, when it comes to the next round of licencing we will hopefully be in a much stronger posission then.
There we go.....players paid..........announ
cements re buyer tomorrow hopefully.
RFL seem to have paid them, as they have inside track.
[quote][p][bold]Eddie Tees[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mumby was the best[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billybobbull[/bold] wrote: I don't quite get all the doom and gloom. It seems this was just an oversight amid all the confusion, between the club and RFL. It is serious, but not the end of the world. The offers are being discussed as I type, and hopefully we have resolution today or tomorrow. Please wait and see what comes out of the meetings today before putting us the Championship. The RFL are bending over backwards to help us, don't forget that. Without their help we would have finished before Easter. Players will be paid, new owner announced, whether temporary or permanent, and we will be in SL next year if all goes to plan!!![/p][/quote]I agree. If we were to be relegated at end of season it does not give much time to replace us with a team that has to rebuild. They could run it with 13 teams but I don`t think that will happen. Maybe relegation looms at the next round of licences.[/p][/quote]Who knows, when it comes to the next round of licencing we will hopefully be in a much stronger posission then.[/p][/quote]There we go.....players paid..........announ cements re buyer tomorrow hopefully. RFL seem to have paid them, as they have inside track. billybobbull
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6:29pm Tue 14 Aug 12

scandanavian's love child52 says...

The voice of reason is exactly that not the voice of a blinkered 10 year old like some on here. Grow up and debate without insulting and having a go and if thats too hard turn cartoons back on.
The voice of reason is exactly that not the voice of a blinkered 10 year old like some on here. Grow up and debate without insulting and having a go and if thats too hard turn cartoons back on. scandanavian's love child52
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6:45pm Tue 14 Aug 12

oddshapedballs says...

bartsbull wrote:
I have said it from day one this man as a hidden agenda please get this mess sorted out

The players need to be kept informed at all times they have been fantastic for the club in these very hard times as have the staff who have carried on working without pay

I would not blame any of them if they walked away from the club this man as not treated them with respect

I understand that the administrator as to keep a tight reign but he also as a duty of care to any staff still employed by the club.

To me he as broken that duty of care by not informing the staff in person what was happening not everyone as e mails

We need to look after these people they have not broken there contracts by not turning up to play and i would hope they carry on playing as they are thing like this do not give a good impression to anyone
HAS!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]bartsbull[/bold] wrote: I have said it from day one this man as a hidden agenda please get this mess sorted out The players need to be kept informed at all times they have been fantastic for the club in these very hard times as have the staff who have carried on working without pay I would not blame any of them if they walked away from the club this man as not treated them with respect I understand that the administrator as to keep a tight reign but he also as a duty of care to any staff still employed by the club. To me he as broken that duty of care by not informing the staff in person what was happening not everyone as e mails We need to look after these people they have not broken there contracts by not turning up to play and i would hope they carry on playing as they are thing like this do not give a good impression to anyone[/p][/quote]HAS!!!!! oddshapedballs
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8:21pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Sheffieldbull says...

Why didn't this paper find out why the wages were not paid on time - an informed fan managed it by contacting Blake Solly at the RFL by text today - well done C, poor do R!
Why didn't this paper find out why the wages were not paid on time - an informed fan managed it by contacting Blake Solly at the RFL by text today - well done C, poor do R! Sheffieldbull
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8:27pm Tue 14 Aug 12

raisemeup says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
It's based on the fact that the Bulls are out with their begging bowl and have been since March and are in administration, infact the Cougars are in a better position at present to compete in Super League than the Bulls currently are.

It's fact.

After a takeover maybe the Bulls will be capable of being a Super League club but as of today they aren't.
Did you not know the Cougars did not pay the players on time due to a temporary cash flow problem. Caused by the fact they only had one home game in July, according to their chairman.
I have a lot of sympathy with them as the Bulls didn't have one home game in May, only the two in June and only one in July (in fact in 12 weeks they had only 3 home games at Odsal (we know about the Magic weekend, which, takes time for the revenue to reach the clubs via the RFL.)
It appears the same fixture planners are at it in Championship1, but to a less extent than in the top echelon!

You forget TVof NP, that the Super League license runs for another two years, and as not been revoked.
Therefore the Bulls are for the foreseeable future a Super League club.

Halifax would not thank you for sticking your nose into their affairs.

I can tell you that catergorically.
They have a further two years before they can apply for a Super League licence. That is their business plan, they would be foolish to jump the gun.

If the Bulls had to have their licence revoked, which would be totally unprecedented if the Club is purchased, as they have already been docked six points for going into administration. Which is theoretically the total punishment, without a further alteration to the laws in 2013.

So mull that over?

I won't bother to read up on the rules of licencing when I have a clerk to do it fo me> I can assume you will pore over the rule book now until the early hours??
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: It's based on the fact that the Bulls are out with their begging bowl and have been since March and are in administration, infact the Cougars are in a better position at present to compete in Super League than the Bulls currently are. It's fact. After a takeover maybe the Bulls will be capable of being a Super League club but as of today they aren't.[/p][/quote]Did you not know the Cougars did not pay the players on time due to a temporary cash flow problem. Caused by the fact they only had one home game in July, according to their chairman. I have a lot of sympathy with them as the Bulls didn't have one home game in May, only the two in June and only one in July (in fact in 12 weeks they had only 3 home games at Odsal (we know about the Magic weekend, which, takes time for the revenue to reach the clubs via the RFL.) It appears the same fixture planners are at it in Championship1, but to a less extent than in the top echelon! You forget TVof NP, that the Super League license runs for another two years, and as not been revoked. Therefore the Bulls are for the foreseeable future a Super League club. Halifax would not thank you for sticking your nose into their affairs. I can tell you that catergorically. They have a further two years before they can apply for a Super League licence. That is their business plan, they would be foolish to jump the gun. If the Bulls had to have their licence revoked, which would be totally unprecedented if the Club is purchased, as they have already been docked six points for going into administration. Which is theoretically the total punishment, without a further alteration to the laws in 2013. So mull that over? I won't bother to read up on the rules of licencing when I have a clerk to do it fo me> I can assume you will pore over the rule book now until the early hours?? raisemeup
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8:39pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Tricky Dicky says...

It is nice to see that amongst the hair-pulling that seems to infect the site there are still reasoned arguments. There needs to be a serious look into the franchising system and salary cap as both seem to be failing the game. For all its faults, one team down and one team up seems to embody what sport is all about - competition. With the Bulls, and others, still receiving licences despite their precarious financial situations you have to ask whether the Licencing Officer actually had his glasses on! No wonder Mr Solly has been less than sympathetic to the Bulls plight. Should the Bulls survive in SL (and I sincerely hope they do), it will merely be papering over cracks and, unless changes are made (possibly along the lines of the NFL/AFL draft system), the rich clubs (with their financial benefactors) will continue to dominate and the rest will make up a very skew competition.
It is nice to see that amongst the hair-pulling that seems to infect the site there are still reasoned arguments. There needs to be a serious look into the franchising system and salary cap as both seem to be failing the game. For all its faults, one team down and one team up seems to embody what sport is all about - competition. With the Bulls, and others, still receiving licences despite their precarious financial situations you have to ask whether the Licencing Officer actually had his glasses on! No wonder Mr Solly has been less than sympathetic to the Bulls plight. Should the Bulls survive in SL (and I sincerely hope they do), it will merely be papering over cracks and, unless changes are made (possibly along the lines of the NFL/AFL draft system), the rich clubs (with their financial benefactors) will continue to dominate and the rest will make up a very skew competition. Tricky Dicky
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8:56pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Sheffieldbull says...

"No wonder Mr Solly has been less than sympathetic to the Bulls plight"....... Why do you think that is Tricky? Embrassment? My question is, Where does ownership of a problem end? Anyone interested in why the Bulls weren't paid?
"No wonder Mr Solly has been less than sympathetic to the Bulls plight"....... Why do you think that is Tricky? Embrassment? My question is, Where does ownership of a problem end? Anyone interested in why the Bulls weren't paid? Sheffieldbull
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9:01pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Sheffieldbull says...

scandanavian's love child52 wrote:
The voice of reason is exactly that not the voice of a blinkered 10 year old like some on here. Grow up and debate without insulting and having a go and if thats too hard turn cartoons back on.
Care to explain where these direct quotes fit into the debate?

scandanavian's love child52 says...
9:15am Tue 14 Aug 12
He will be back. I am my own person mumby as you know it seems to be you attached to the back end of a viking.

scandanavian's love child52 says...
1:05pm Mon 13 Aug 12
A decent contribution 1 game out of 10 not worth the money, and he has the worst hair in the league.

scandanavian's love child52 says...
3:31pm Mon 13 Aug 12
Shall I reply twice as your dementia has made you double post ? Be nice viking its not big or clever ( a bit like your good self )

scandanavian's love child52 says...
4:33pm Mon 13 Aug 12
Ha ha a bite yet again, must be better than hospital food old timer.

scandanavian's love child52 says...
10:49am Tuescandanavian's love child52 says...
6:26am Tue 14 Aug 12
Aww didums I am off to tell teacher, another in the viking mould of not being able to take it. Log off and dont come back is what I say.
14 Aug 12
I am my own man Mumby lad so get back to the Viking flock.
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Sad, ain't you?
[quote][p][bold]scandanavian's love child52[/bold] wrote: The voice of reason is exactly that not the voice of a blinkered 10 year old like some on here. Grow up and debate without insulting and having a go and if thats too hard turn cartoons back on.[/p][/quote]Care to explain where these direct quotes fit into the debate? scandanavian's love child52 says... 9:15am Tue 14 Aug 12 He will be back. I am my own person mumby as you know it seems to be you attached to the back end of a viking. scandanavian's love child52 says... 1:05pm Mon 13 Aug 12 A decent contribution 1 game out of 10 not worth the money, and he has the worst hair in the league. scandanavian's love child52 says... 3:31pm Mon 13 Aug 12 Shall I reply twice as your dementia has made you double post ? Be nice viking its not big or clever ( a bit like your good self ) scandanavian's love child52 says... 4:33pm Mon 13 Aug 12 Ha ha a bite yet again, must be better than hospital food old timer. scandanavian's love child52 says... 10:49am Tuescandanavian's love child52 says... 6:26am Tue 14 Aug 12 Aww didums I am off to tell teacher, another in the viking mould of not being able to take it. Log off and dont come back is what I say. 14 Aug 12 I am my own man Mumby lad so get back to the Viking flock. . Sad, ain't you? Sheffieldbull
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9:12pm Tue 14 Aug 12

raisemeup says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
Bacon Bantam wrote:
Eddie Tees wrote:
Bacon Bantam wrote:
Tatecastre wrote: The same statement applies to the RFL, treating players, like this. Nothing but contempt. Are they trying to save the Bulls or not?
Once again, why is it up to the RFL to save the Bulls, they didn't create this mess. As the players are going to be paid this story helps no one.
As a number of people have stated - the players will be paid, the RFL have agreed to that. T&A working for Gargoyl and Voldermort Caisley here?. Trying to mix up trouble. Yes, a none story. Disgusting way to treat the players though, who have been nothing short of amazing all through this sorry affair. BB why do you hate the Bulls so much? I can only think it's jealousy because of the wonderfull support we get from the council and they did not want to know when it came to helping you! Good to see the sporting section of our community supporting each other!
I don't hate the Bulls. Just because I point out that the RFL are not at fault for the mess the Bulls find themselves in and that the job of an administrator is to find the best deal for creditors somehow I'm seen to hate the Bulls. I don't get it. What I don't like is the number of people on here who slate the administator and the RFL as if it is all their fault, they seem to think the club is owed something from these when in reality the club owes alot to the people at the RFL for still existing in some form as of today. I've seen this at VP twice and both times is was awful so I know what this feels like, I'm just sick of all the fans sniping at those who are actually trying to help. How many other super league clubs are having wages paid by the RFL? Be thankful of the help is all I say, not slate the helpers whenever you can.
One or two misconceptions here? For a start the Money advanced to the Bulls. I understand is the SKY final payments under the present contractual arrangements.But in advance of the scheduled time to pay. And do you forget the 90% of all home games to be played at Odsal, and the Contingent liability clause that comes into the equation to the lease holder (ie RFL) which means the Bulls have to play 13 (12.6 for TVof Rs benefit) games at home, under our present 28 league game structure. That's what I assume the written words meant anyway... I remain to be totally convinced in the RFL as the benefactor you seem to think they are: Besides which , in the Negotiaters game. You do not take the side of the seller if you are the Buyer! And vice-a-versa. That's fatal if you want a good deal.> The only time sides can be taken is when a satisfactory deal is concluded. And remember that deal is to be conditional on both parties being happy with how it pans out, with mutual benefit all round. Notice I used the word conditional, swap that for concessions. Now you tell me from what we have heard have the RFL made any concessions? I admire the patience of the buyers...most buyers I have known would have walked out on the sellers, and reported them to the office of fair trading after suffering the contemt we seem to have heard. As they haven't taken this stance (to my knowledge anyway) we can only assume we are hearing a lot of flap doodle or shim sham, from many angles, and sources. May I ask.for a neutrality in our posts. We are only serving to add a lot of fuel to a fire that none of us lit. The blame game get's us nowhere.
You do know the league is 27 games long and not 28. 13 at home, 13 away and 1 neutral magic weekend game.
I have a hair I wish you to split???? PS The league is 28 games long. Bradford Bulls theoretically had the home advantage and played in our home kit. No more pointless garbage please.
The league is 27 games long.

There have been 24 games played and the Bulls have 3 games left, Huddersfield, Hull and Catalans.

Thats 27 games. Where is this 28th game you refer to?
Yes that's right.
Even playing Leeds 3 times didn't add up...shame really.
But it does keep you on your toes>

Are you a supporter or a statitician???

Curious blend of being interested and not...can't work you out!
Blooming annoying I' ll have to go back to the tarot cards.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bacon Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eddie Tees[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bacon Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tatecastre[/bold] wrote: The same statement applies to the RFL, treating players, like this. Nothing but contempt. Are they trying to save the Bulls or not?[/p][/quote]Once again, why is it up to the RFL to save the Bulls, they didn't create this mess. As the players are going to be paid this story helps no one.[/p][/quote]As a number of people have stated - the players will be paid, the RFL have agreed to that. T&A working for Gargoyl and Voldermort Caisley here?. Trying to mix up trouble. Yes, a none story. Disgusting way to treat the players though, who have been nothing short of amazing all through this sorry affair. BB why do you hate the Bulls so much? I can only think it's jealousy because of the wonderfull support we get from the council and they did not want to know when it came to helping you! Good to see the sporting section of our community supporting each other![/p][/quote]I don't hate the Bulls. Just because I point out that the RFL are not at fault for the mess the Bulls find themselves in and that the job of an administrator is to find the best deal for creditors somehow I'm seen to hate the Bulls. I don't get it. What I don't like is the number of people on here who slate the administator and the RFL as if it is all their fault, they seem to think the club is owed something from these when in reality the club owes alot to the people at the RFL for still existing in some form as of today. I've seen this at VP twice and both times is was awful so I know what this feels like, I'm just sick of all the fans sniping at those who are actually trying to help. How many other super league clubs are having wages paid by the RFL? Be thankful of the help is all I say, not slate the helpers whenever you can.[/p][/quote]One or two misconceptions here? For a start the Money advanced to the Bulls. I understand is the SKY final payments under the present contractual arrangements.But in advance of the scheduled time to pay. And do you forget the 90% of all home games to be played at Odsal, and the Contingent liability clause that comes into the equation to the lease holder (ie RFL) which means the Bulls have to play 13 (12.6 for TVof Rs benefit) games at home, under our present 28 league game structure. That's what I assume the written words meant anyway... I remain to be totally convinced in the RFL as the benefactor you seem to think they are: Besides which , in the Negotiaters game. You do not take the side of the seller if you are the Buyer! And vice-a-versa. That's fatal if you want a good deal.> The only time sides can be taken is when a satisfactory deal is concluded. And remember that deal is to be conditional on both parties being happy with how it pans out, with mutual benefit all round. Notice I used the word conditional, swap that for concessions. Now you tell me from what we have heard have the RFL made any concessions? I admire the patience of the buyers...most buyers I have known would have walked out on the sellers, and reported them to the office of fair trading after suffering the contemt we seem to have heard. As they haven't taken this stance (to my knowledge anyway) we can only assume we are hearing a lot of flap doodle or shim sham, from many angles, and sources. May I ask.for a neutrality in our posts. We are only serving to add a lot of fuel to a fire that none of us lit. The blame game get's us nowhere.[/p][/quote]You do know the league is 27 games long and not 28. 13 at home, 13 away and 1 neutral magic weekend game.[/p][/quote]I have a hair I wish you to split???? PS The league is 28 games long. Bradford Bulls theoretically had the home advantage and played in our home kit. No more pointless garbage please.[/p][/quote]The league is 27 games long. There have been 24 games played and the Bulls have 3 games left, Huddersfield, Hull and Catalans. Thats 27 games. Where is this 28th game you refer to?[/p][/quote]Yes that's right. Even playing Leeds 3 times didn't add up...shame really. But it does keep you on your toes> Are you a supporter or a statitician??? Curious blend of being interested and not...can't work you out! Blooming annoying I' ll have to go back to the tarot cards. raisemeup
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9:55pm Tue 14 Aug 12

raisemeup says...

O ye of little faith wrote:
I think that Raise Me Up has got the situation correct the money from the RFL to fund the players wages is advance payment from the Sky payments,so its good of them to pay it now but they will be getting the money back from Sky eventually.On another subject has anyone tried to purchase tickets for Sundays game from Odsal?I did today and was told that Huddersfield havent supplied any and you can only buy tickets through the Giants ticket office or on line by their web site! If you dont buy in advance by this method the price will increase by £3 on match day.Why they couldnt provide tickets as they normally do is beyond me or did they announce this earlier and I missed it?
Yes that's true we bought from their ticket office..forget where we heard the announcement about that.
Couldn't get hem online without being a registered member either:

So you would be best ringing the Ticket office, and pay via a credit or debit card.
[quote][p][bold]O ye of little faith[/bold] wrote: I think that Raise Me Up has got the situation correct the money from the RFL to fund the players wages is advance payment from the Sky payments,so its good of them to pay it now but they will be getting the money back from Sky eventually.On another subject has anyone tried to purchase tickets for Sundays game from Odsal?I did today and was told that Huddersfield havent supplied any and you can only buy tickets through the Giants ticket office or on line by their web site! If you dont buy in advance by this method the price will increase by £3 on match day.Why they couldnt provide tickets as they normally do is beyond me or did they announce this earlier and I missed it?[/p][/quote]Yes that's true we bought from their ticket office..forget where we heard the announcement about that. Couldn't get hem online without being a registered member either: So you would be best ringing the Ticket office, and pay via a credit or debit card. raisemeup
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10:20pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Tatecastre says...

Sheffieldbull wrote:
scandanavian's love child52 wrote:
The voice of reason is exactly that not the voice of a blinkered 10 year old like some on here. Grow up and debate without insulting and having a go and if thats too hard turn cartoons back on.
Care to explain where these direct quotes fit into the debate?

scandanavian's love child52 says...
9:15am Tue 14 Aug 12
He will be back. I am my own person mumby as you know it seems to be you attached to the back end of a viking.

scandanavian's love child52 says...
1:05pm Mon 13 Aug 12
A decent contribution 1 game out of 10 not worth the money, and he has the worst hair in the league.

scandanavian's love child52 says...
3:31pm Mon 13 Aug 12
Shall I reply twice as your dementia has made you double post ? Be nice viking its not big or clever ( a bit like your good self )

scandanavian's love child52 says...
4:33pm Mon 13 Aug 12
Ha ha a bite yet again, must be better than hospital food old timer.

scandanavian's love child52 says...
10:49am Tuescandanavian's love child52 says...
6:26am Tue 14 Aug 12
Aww didums I am off to tell teacher, another in the viking mould of not being able to take it. Log off and dont come back is what I say.
14 Aug 12
I am my own man Mumby lad so get back to the Viking flock.
.
Sad, ain't you?
Well, well, well, hoisted by your own petard! Eh, SLC52.
[quote][p][bold]Sheffieldbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scandanavian's love child52[/bold] wrote: The voice of reason is exactly that not the voice of a blinkered 10 year old like some on here. Grow up and debate without insulting and having a go and if thats too hard turn cartoons back on.[/p][/quote]Care to explain where these direct quotes fit into the debate? scandanavian's love child52 says... 9:15am Tue 14 Aug 12 He will be back. I am my own person mumby as you know it seems to be you attached to the back end of a viking. scandanavian's love child52 says... 1:05pm Mon 13 Aug 12 A decent contribution 1 game out of 10 not worth the money, and he has the worst hair in the league. scandanavian's love child52 says... 3:31pm Mon 13 Aug 12 Shall I reply twice as your dementia has made you double post ? Be nice viking its not big or clever ( a bit like your good self ) scandanavian's love child52 says... 4:33pm Mon 13 Aug 12 Ha ha a bite yet again, must be better than hospital food old timer. scandanavian's love child52 says... 10:49am Tuescandanavian's love child52 says... 6:26am Tue 14 Aug 12 Aww didums I am off to tell teacher, another in the viking mould of not being able to take it. Log off and dont come back is what I say. 14 Aug 12 I am my own man Mumby lad so get back to the Viking flock. . Sad, ain't you?[/p][/quote]Well, well, well, hoisted by your own petard! Eh, SLC52. Tatecastre
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10:22pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Tatecastre says...

Well, well, well, hoisted by your own petard! Eh, SLC52.
Well, well, well, hoisted by your own petard! Eh, SLC52. Tatecastre
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10:44pm Tue 14 Aug 12

scandanavian's love child52 says...

Ha ha I am sad ? Is it I trawling through all the previous posts ? Is it I who **** lick round the rest ? My poor sheff friend has resorted to that as no one answered his question or was 1 bit interested why players were not paid. Old news sheff, they got paid move on and try spend a bit more time with your mrs as if you really are as boring as you are on here she has probably slammed front door and left you. Dont worry lad I will still be your friend.
Ha ha I am sad ? Is it I trawling through all the previous posts ? Is it I who **** lick round the rest ? My poor sheff friend has resorted to that as no one answered his question or was 1 bit interested why players were not paid. Old news sheff, they got paid move on and try spend a bit more time with your mrs as if you really are as boring as you are on here she has probably slammed front door and left you. Dont worry lad I will still be your friend. scandanavian's love child52
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10:47pm Tue 14 Aug 12

scandanavian's love child52 says...

Oh go on seeing as mumby the sheep not here, why didnt players get paid sheff please tell us all with your knowledge, just wait while I read a book zzzz.
Oh go on seeing as mumby the sheep not here, why didnt players get paid sheff please tell us all with your knowledge, just wait while I read a book zzzz. scandanavian's love child52
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11:18pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

raisemeup wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
It's based on the fact that the Bulls are out with their begging bowl and have been since March and are in administration, infact the Cougars are in a better position at present to compete in Super League than the Bulls currently are.

It's fact.

After a takeover maybe the Bulls will be capable of being a Super League club but as of today they aren't.
Did you not know the Cougars did not pay the players on time due to a temporary cash flow problem. Caused by the fact they only had one home game in July, according to their chairman.
I have a lot of sympathy with them as the Bulls didn't have one home game in May, only the two in June and only one in July (in fact in 12 weeks they had only 3 home games at Odsal (we know about the Magic weekend, which, takes time for the revenue to reach the clubs via the RFL.)
It appears the same fixture planners are at it in Championship1, but to a less extent than in the top echelon!

You forget TVof NP, that the Super League license runs for another two years, and as not been revoked.
Therefore the Bulls are for the foreseeable future a Super League club.

Halifax would not thank you for sticking your nose into their affairs.

I can tell you that catergorically.
They have a further two years before they can apply for a Super League licence. That is their business plan, they would be foolish to jump the gun.

If the Bulls had to have their licence revoked, which would be totally unprecedented if the Club is purchased, as they have already been docked six points for going into administration. Which is theoretically the total punishment, without a further alteration to the laws in 2013.

So mull that over?

I won't bother to read up on the rules of licencing when I have a clerk to do it fo me> I can assume you will pore over the rule book now until the early hours??
No need to pour over the rule book as there was a direct quote from the RFL a weeks or so ago stating they can revoke the licence.

Then again you don't even know how many league games there is so there is no suprise you missed that.
[quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: It's based on the fact that the Bulls are out with their begging bowl and have been since March and are in administration, infact the Cougars are in a better position at present to compete in Super League than the Bulls currently are. It's fact. After a takeover maybe the Bulls will be capable of being a Super League club but as of today they aren't.[/p][/quote]Did you not know the Cougars did not pay the players on time due to a temporary cash flow problem. Caused by the fact they only had one home game in July, according to their chairman. I have a lot of sympathy with them as the Bulls didn't have one home game in May, only the two in June and only one in July (in fact in 12 weeks they had only 3 home games at Odsal (we know about the Magic weekend, which, takes time for the revenue to reach the clubs via the RFL.) It appears the same fixture planners are at it in Championship1, but to a less extent than in the top echelon! You forget TVof NP, that the Super League license runs for another two years, and as not been revoked. Therefore the Bulls are for the foreseeable future a Super League club. Halifax would not thank you for sticking your nose into their affairs. I can tell you that catergorically. They have a further two years before they can apply for a Super League licence. That is their business plan, they would be foolish to jump the gun. If the Bulls had to have their licence revoked, which would be totally unprecedented if the Club is purchased, as they have already been docked six points for going into administration. Which is theoretically the total punishment, without a further alteration to the laws in 2013. So mull that over? I won't bother to read up on the rules of licencing when I have a clerk to do it fo me> I can assume you will pore over the rule book now until the early hours??[/p][/quote]No need to pour over the rule book as there was a direct quote from the RFL a weeks or so ago stating they can revoke the licence. Then again you don't even know how many league games there is so there is no suprise you missed that. Thee Voice of Reason
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11:25pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

3 paragraph from the end, confirmation that the licence can be revoked.

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/rugby-leagu
e/18846771
3 paragraph from the end, confirmation that the licence can be revoked. http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/rugby-leagu e/18846771 Thee Voice of Reason
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8:25am Wed 15 Aug 12

scandanavian's love child52 says...

If the license is revoked they will all have a angry face like ian whitehead in todays paper. Grrrr
If the license is revoked they will all have a angry face like ian whitehead in todays paper. Grrrr scandanavian's love child52
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9:22am Wed 15 Aug 12

raisemeup says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
It's based on the fact that the Bulls are out with their begging bowl and have been since March and are in administration, infact the Cougars are in a better position at present to compete in Super League than the Bulls currently are.

It's fact.

After a takeover maybe the Bulls will be capable of being a Super League club but as of today they aren't.
Did you not know the Cougars did not pay the players on time due to a temporary cash flow problem. Caused by the fact they only had one home game in July, according to their chairman.
I have a lot of sympathy with them as the Bulls didn't have one home game in May, only the two in June and only one in July (in fact in 12 weeks they had only 3 home games at Odsal (we know about the Magic weekend, which, takes time for the revenue to reach the clubs via the RFL.)
It appears the same fixture planners are at it in Championship1, but to a less extent than in the top echelon!

You forget TVof NP, that the Super League license runs for another two years, and as not been revoked.
Therefore the Bulls are for the foreseeable future a Super League club.

Halifax would not thank you for sticking your nose into their affairs.

I can tell you that catergorically.
They have a further two years before they can apply for a Super League licence. That is their business plan, they would be foolish to jump the gun.

If the Bulls had to have their licence revoked, which would be totally unprecedented if the Club is purchased, as they have already been docked six points for going into administration. Which is theoretically the total punishment, without a further alteration to the laws in 2013.

So mull that over?

I won't bother to read up on the rules of licencing when I have a clerk to do it fo me> I can assume you will pore over the rule book now until the early hours??
No need to pour over the rule book as there was a direct quote from the RFL a weeks or so ago stating they can revoke the licence.

Then again you don't even know how many league games there is so there is no suprise you missed that.
What they say and what's in the rule book is two different things, ie one is bluster the other is written in tablets of stone, and is open to a legal challenge if it came to it>

Who said anything of the sort, old bean.
Suppose I was just throwing something in the pot to keep you busy and away from sensible debaters,,,sadly it didn't work. But I will be totally accurate with all figures, if I can be bothered, in future.
However I will give you a lift, by telling you it was a mistake I made in the first post...My apologies to my extensive readership..ahem!!!
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: It's based on the fact that the Bulls are out with their begging bowl and have been since March and are in administration, infact the Cougars are in a better position at present to compete in Super League than the Bulls currently are. It's fact. After a takeover maybe the Bulls will be capable of being a Super League club but as of today they aren't.[/p][/quote]Did you not know the Cougars did not pay the players on time due to a temporary cash flow problem. Caused by the fact they only had one home game in July, according to their chairman. I have a lot of sympathy with them as the Bulls didn't have one home game in May, only the two in June and only one in July (in fact in 12 weeks they had only 3 home games at Odsal (we know about the Magic weekend, which, takes time for the revenue to reach the clubs via the RFL.) It appears the same fixture planners are at it in Championship1, but to a less extent than in the top echelon! You forget TVof NP, that the Super League license runs for another two years, and as not been revoked. Therefore the Bulls are for the foreseeable future a Super League club. Halifax would not thank you for sticking your nose into their affairs. I can tell you that catergorically. They have a further two years before they can apply for a Super League licence. That is their business plan, they would be foolish to jump the gun. If the Bulls had to have their licence revoked, which would be totally unprecedented if the Club is purchased, as they have already been docked six points for going into administration. Which is theoretically the total punishment, without a further alteration to the laws in 2013. So mull that over? I won't bother to read up on the rules of licencing when I have a clerk to do it fo me> I can assume you will pore over the rule book now until the early hours??[/p][/quote]No need to pour over the rule book as there was a direct quote from the RFL a weeks or so ago stating they can revoke the licence. Then again you don't even know how many league games there is so there is no suprise you missed that.[/p][/quote]What they say and what's in the rule book is two different things, ie one is bluster the other is written in tablets of stone, and is open to a legal challenge if it came to it> Who said anything of the sort, old bean. Suppose I was just throwing something in the pot to keep you busy and away from sensible debaters,,,sadly it didn't work. But I will be totally accurate with all figures, if I can be bothered, in future. However I will give you a lift, by telling you it was a mistake I made in the first post...My apologies to my extensive readership..ahem!!! raisemeup
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9:27am Wed 15 Aug 12

malkybronco says...

If the bulls are relegated to the championship How much will all the other 13 teams lose Bull followers add approx £50,000 in gate receipts Are the RFL going to pay this?
If the bulls are relegated to the championship How much will all the other 13 teams lose Bull followers add approx £50,000 in gate receipts Are the RFL going to pay this? malkybronco
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9:31am Wed 15 Aug 12

Bacon Bantam says...

malkybronco wrote:
If the bulls are relegated to the championship How much will all the other 13 teams lose Bull followers add approx £50,000 in gate receipts Are the RFL going to pay this?
That esitate is fairly high, Thats like saying the Bulls take 2,500 to each away game at £20 a time.

Appart from Leeds, how often do the Bulls take more than 2,000 away from home?
[quote][p][bold]malkybronco[/bold] wrote: If the bulls are relegated to the championship How much will all the other 13 teams lose Bull followers add approx £50,000 in gate receipts Are the RFL going to pay this?[/p][/quote]That esitate is fairly high, Thats like saying the Bulls take 2,500 to each away game at £20 a time. Appart from Leeds, how often do the Bulls take more than 2,000 away from home? Bacon Bantam
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10:07am Wed 15 Aug 12

raisemeup says...

Bacon Bantam wrote:
malkybronco wrote:
If the bulls are relegated to the championship How much will all the other 13 teams lose Bull followers add approx £50,000 in gate receipts Are the RFL going to pay this?
That esitate is fairly high, Thats like saying the Bulls take 2,500 to each away game at £20 a time.

Appart from Leeds, how often do the Bulls take more than 2,000 away from home?
As the Leeds reported figure was 3500, it could realistically be between 1800 to 2500. But who knows really, so many variables with each game, its only something you can tell on the day.
But one thing is certain, that any team playing one of the iconic sides in the league of the 13 others,
( that's a specific for TVof NP)
is usually guaranteed a better crowd from their own supporter base. Which of course makes Malky's comment viable. And how will the rfl get round this embarassment, if they had to take the draconian step of revoking a licence? If the club was purchased and on an even financial footing once more.
Time and the oracle will tell??
[quote][p][bold]Bacon Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]malkybronco[/bold] wrote: If the bulls are relegated to the championship How much will all the other 13 teams lose Bull followers add approx £50,000 in gate receipts Are the RFL going to pay this?[/p][/quote]That esitate is fairly high, Thats like saying the Bulls take 2,500 to each away game at £20 a time. Appart from Leeds, how often do the Bulls take more than 2,000 away from home?[/p][/quote]As the Leeds reported figure was 3500, it could realistically be between 1800 to 2500. But who knows really, so many variables with each game, its only something you can tell on the day. But one thing is certain, that any team playing one of the iconic sides in the league of the 13 others, ( that's a specific for TVof NP) is usually guaranteed a better crowd from their own supporter base. Which of course makes Malky's comment viable. And how will the rfl get round this embarassment, if they had to take the draconian step of revoking a licence? If the club was purchased and on an even financial footing once more. Time and the oracle will tell?? raisemeup
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10:53am Wed 15 Aug 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

raisemeup wrote:
Bacon Bantam wrote:
malkybronco wrote: If the bulls are relegated to the championship How much will all the other 13 teams lose Bull followers add approx £50,000 in gate receipts Are the RFL going to pay this?
That esitate is fairly high, Thats like saying the Bulls take 2,500 to each away game at £20 a time. Appart from Leeds, how often do the Bulls take more than 2,000 away from home?
As the Leeds reported figure was 3500, it could realistically be between 1800 to 2500. But who knows really, so many variables with each game, its only something you can tell on the day. But one thing is certain, that any team playing one of the iconic sides in the league of the 13 others, ( that's a specific for TVof NP) is usually guaranteed a better crowd from their own supporter base. Which of course makes Malky's comment viable. And how will the rfl get round this embarassment, if they had to take the draconian step of revoking a licence? If the club was purchased and on an even financial footing once more. Time and the oracle will tell??
You theory once again doesn't stack up.

From 4 different sides here are the attendances v the iconic Bradford side and the non iconic Wakefield side. There isn't much difference.

Saints v Bradford 13025
Saint v Wakefield 13177

Warrington v Bradford 10750
Warrington v Wakefield 10686

Hull v Bradford 11673
Hull v Wakefield 11105

London v Bradford 2844
London v Wakefield 2268

There isn't much evidence that the Bulls draw in massive crowds in regular games verses other teams and Bacon Bantam has a point in saying the £50k estimate is well over the top.

You see debate is all about looking at something and breaking it down, many people are just quoting numbers and expect them to pass off as fact without question.

14k average gates, 28 games a season, £50k loss for each club if there is no Bradford, etc, etc.

Once again no doubt I'll be jumped all over for bringing some actual facts to the table even though they can be backed up over those just quoted on a whim with no back up.

This season I'll be suprised if the Bulls took 2000 away from home more than 3 times. Once v Leeds, one v Wigan when this trouble kicked off, I guess before then the travelling support would have been on par with the previous years and possibly this weekend v Huddersfield.
[quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bacon Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]malkybronco[/bold] wrote: If the bulls are relegated to the championship How much will all the other 13 teams lose Bull followers add approx £50,000 in gate receipts Are the RFL going to pay this?[/p][/quote]That esitate is fairly high, Thats like saying the Bulls take 2,500 to each away game at £20 a time. Appart from Leeds, how often do the Bulls take more than 2,000 away from home?[/p][/quote]As the Leeds reported figure was 3500, it could realistically be between 1800 to 2500. But who knows really, so many variables with each game, its only something you can tell on the day. But one thing is certain, that any team playing one of the iconic sides in the league of the 13 others, ( that's a specific for TVof NP) is usually guaranteed a better crowd from their own supporter base. Which of course makes Malky's comment viable. And how will the rfl get round this embarassment, if they had to take the draconian step of revoking a licence? If the club was purchased and on an even financial footing once more. Time and the oracle will tell??[/p][/quote]You theory once again doesn't stack up. From 4 different sides here are the attendances v the iconic Bradford side and the non iconic Wakefield side. There isn't much difference. Saints v Bradford 13025 Saint v Wakefield 13177 Warrington v Bradford 10750 Warrington v Wakefield 10686 Hull v Bradford 11673 Hull v Wakefield 11105 London v Bradford 2844 London v Wakefield 2268 There isn't much evidence that the Bulls draw in massive crowds in regular games verses other teams and Bacon Bantam has a point in saying the £50k estimate is well over the top. You see debate is all about looking at something and breaking it down, many people are just quoting numbers and expect them to pass off as fact without question. 14k average gates, 28 games a season, £50k loss for each club if there is no Bradford, etc, etc. Once again no doubt I'll be jumped all over for bringing some actual facts to the table even though they can be backed up over those just quoted on a whim with no back up. This season I'll be suprised if the Bulls took 2000 away from home more than 3 times. Once v Leeds, one v Wigan when this trouble kicked off, I guess before then the travelling support would have been on par with the previous years and possibly this weekend v Huddersfield. Thee Voice of Reason
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11:32am Wed 15 Aug 12

Mumby was the best says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
Bacon Bantam wrote:
malkybronco wrote: If the bulls are relegated to the championship How much will all the other 13 teams lose Bull followers add approx £50,000 in gate receipts Are the RFL going to pay this?
That esitate is fairly high, Thats like saying the Bulls take 2,500 to each away game at £20 a time. Appart from Leeds, how often do the Bulls take more than 2,000 away from home?
As the Leeds reported figure was 3500, it could realistically be between 1800 to 2500. But who knows really, so many variables with each game, its only something you can tell on the day. But one thing is certain, that any team playing one of the iconic sides in the league of the 13 others, ( that's a specific for TVof NP) is usually guaranteed a better crowd from their own supporter base. Which of course makes Malky's comment viable. And how will the rfl get round this embarassment, if they had to take the draconian step of revoking a licence? If the club was purchased and on an even financial footing once more. Time and the oracle will tell??
You theory once again doesn't stack up.

From 4 different sides here are the attendances v the iconic Bradford side and the non iconic Wakefield side. There isn't much difference.

Saints v Bradford 13025
Saint v Wakefield 13177

Warrington v Bradford 10750
Warrington v Wakefield 10686

Hull v Bradford 11673
Hull v Wakefield 11105

London v Bradford 2844
London v Wakefield 2268

There isn't much evidence that the Bulls draw in massive crowds in regular games verses other teams and Bacon Bantam has a point in saying the £50k estimate is well over the top.

You see debate is all about looking at something and breaking it down, many people are just quoting numbers and expect them to pass off as fact without question.

14k average gates, 28 games a season, £50k loss for each club if there is no Bradford, etc, etc.

Once again no doubt I'll be jumped all over for bringing some actual facts to the table even though they can be backed up over those just quoted on a whim with no back up.

This season I'll be suprised if the Bulls took 2000 away from home more than 3 times. Once v Leeds, one v Wigan when this trouble kicked off, I guess before then the travelling support would have been on par with the previous years and possibly this weekend v Huddersfield.
Yawn zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bacon Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]malkybronco[/bold] wrote: If the bulls are relegated to the championship How much will all the other 13 teams lose Bull followers add approx £50,000 in gate receipts Are the RFL going to pay this?[/p][/quote]That esitate is fairly high, Thats like saying the Bulls take 2,500 to each away game at £20 a time. Appart from Leeds, how often do the Bulls take more than 2,000 away from home?[/p][/quote]As the Leeds reported figure was 3500, it could realistically be between 1800 to 2500. But who knows really, so many variables with each game, its only something you can tell on the day. But one thing is certain, that any team playing one of the iconic sides in the league of the 13 others, ( that's a specific for TVof NP) is usually guaranteed a better crowd from their own supporter base. Which of course makes Malky's comment viable. And how will the rfl get round this embarassment, if they had to take the draconian step of revoking a licence? If the club was purchased and on an even financial footing once more. Time and the oracle will tell??[/p][/quote]You theory once again doesn't stack up. From 4 different sides here are the attendances v the iconic Bradford side and the non iconic Wakefield side. There isn't much difference. Saints v Bradford 13025 Saint v Wakefield 13177 Warrington v Bradford 10750 Warrington v Wakefield 10686 Hull v Bradford 11673 Hull v Wakefield 11105 London v Bradford 2844 London v Wakefield 2268 There isn't much evidence that the Bulls draw in massive crowds in regular games verses other teams and Bacon Bantam has a point in saying the £50k estimate is well over the top. You see debate is all about looking at something and breaking it down, many people are just quoting numbers and expect them to pass off as fact without question. 14k average gates, 28 games a season, £50k loss for each club if there is no Bradford, etc, etc. Once again no doubt I'll be jumped all over for bringing some actual facts to the table even though they can be backed up over those just quoted on a whim with no back up. This season I'll be suprised if the Bulls took 2000 away from home more than 3 times. Once v Leeds, one v Wigan when this trouble kicked off, I guess before then the travelling support would have been on par with the previous years and possibly this weekend v Huddersfield.[/p][/quote]Yawn zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zz Mumby was the best
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11:34am Wed 15 Aug 12

murphyslaw says...

malkybronco wrote:
If the bulls are relegated to the championship How much will all the other 13 teams lose Bull followers add approx £50,000 in gate receipts Are the RFL going to pay this?
Exactly the mindset of the many Glasgow Rangers fans before they were dumped. Get over it, no team is indisensible especially one up to its eyes in debt.
[quote][p][bold]malkybronco[/bold] wrote: If the bulls are relegated to the championship How much will all the other 13 teams lose Bull followers add approx £50,000 in gate receipts Are the RFL going to pay this?[/p][/quote]Exactly the mindset of the many Glasgow Rangers fans before they were dumped. Get over it, no team is indisensible especially one up to its eyes in debt. murphyslaw
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11:42am Wed 15 Aug 12

Mumby was the best says...

Why VoR are you on this forum? You are a Cougars fan, if you were a true Bulls fan I could get into discussion with you but you are not.Go on a Cougars site and bore the pants off them with your pedantic posts.
I`m sure if you look thru the classifieds you can find a job for a vertical or horizontal BORER
Why VoR are you on this forum? You are a Cougars fan, if you were a true Bulls fan I could get into discussion with you but you are not.Go on a Cougars site and bore the pants off them with your pedantic posts. I`m sure if you look thru the classifieds you can find a job for a vertical or horizontal BORER Mumby was the best
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12:15pm Wed 15 Aug 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Mumby was the best wrote:
Why VoR are you on this forum? You are a Cougars fan, if you were a true Bulls fan I could get into discussion with you but you are not.Go on a Cougars site and bore the pants off them with your pedantic posts. I`m sure if you look thru the classifieds you can find a job for a vertical or horizontal BORER
I'm not a cougars fan though I do have a soft spot for them and will go watch them.

What I don't like is the throwing around of quotes which have no truth to them in order to try get a point across.

It seems once again when facts are thrown into a discussion the person bringing the facts to the table is just attacked.

Once again this all started with stupid comments from Bulls fans stating Halifax don't deserve a place in Super League and the League can't afford to go without the Bulls.

As it stands Halifax have done nothing wrong but to continue in the league they are in after being knocked back for a Super League licence, Bradford on the other hand who were given a licence have gone on and caused no end of headaches for the Super League and the RFL.

Realistically going back the RFL should have been stronger and said these figures don't add up and been much more scrutising in the award of Super League licences because it's clear as day that the Bulls were not in a position to fufil the 3 year of a licence when they were awarded it.

Halifax on the other hand have just got on with their business.

Like someone has just posted above, no club is bigger than the League or the Sport but it seems many still don't realise this and quote stupid figures plucked from thin air to try back up that view, when looked at closer as I have provided don't stack up.

I want to see the Bulls in Super League next season but it's embarrassing seeing some thinking it's their god given right to be a super league team no matter how badly the club has been run.
[quote][p][bold]Mumby was the best[/bold] wrote: Why VoR are you on this forum? You are a Cougars fan, if you were a true Bulls fan I could get into discussion with you but you are not.Go on a Cougars site and bore the pants off them with your pedantic posts. I`m sure if you look thru the classifieds you can find a job for a vertical or horizontal BORER[/p][/quote]I'm not a cougars fan though I do have a soft spot for them and will go watch them. What I don't like is the throwing around of quotes which have no truth to them in order to try get a point across. It seems once again when facts are thrown into a discussion the person bringing the facts to the table is just attacked. Once again this all started with stupid comments from Bulls fans stating Halifax don't deserve a place in Super League and the League can't afford to go without the Bulls. As it stands Halifax have done nothing wrong but to continue in the league they are in after being knocked back for a Super League licence, Bradford on the other hand who were given a licence have gone on and caused no end of headaches for the Super League and the RFL. Realistically going back the RFL should have been stronger and said these figures don't add up and been much more scrutising in the award of Super League licences because it's clear as day that the Bulls were not in a position to fufil the 3 year of a licence when they were awarded it. Halifax on the other hand have just got on with their business. Like someone has just posted above, no club is bigger than the League or the Sport but it seems many still don't realise this and quote stupid figures plucked from thin air to try back up that view, when looked at closer as I have provided don't stack up. I want to see the Bulls in Super League next season but it's embarrassing seeing some thinking it's their god given right to be a super league team no matter how badly the club has been run. Thee Voice of Reason
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12:26pm Wed 15 Aug 12

raisemeup says...

Good god the man's folowing Wakefield now..
I'll warn em'.
Good god the man's folowing Wakefield now.. I'll warn em'. raisemeup
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12:32pm Wed 15 Aug 12

Mumby was the best says...

He`s the human answer to moggadon
He`s the human answer to moggadon Mumby was the best
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12:33pm Wed 15 Aug 12

Mumby was the best says...

Think Roy Cropper is based on him.
Think Roy Cropper is based on him. Mumby was the best
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12:37pm Wed 15 Aug 12

Mumby was the best says...

I'm not a cougars fan though I do have a soft spot
Think you`ve more than one soft spot!!!
I'm not a cougars fan though I do have a soft spot Think you`ve more than one soft spot!!! Mumby was the best
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12:38pm Wed 15 Aug 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Keep the insults coming, it's always the standard response of someone who knows the argument is lost.
Keep the insults coming, it's always the standard response of someone who knows the argument is lost. Thee Voice of Reason
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12:42pm Wed 15 Aug 12

Mumby was the best says...

Told you I don`t discuss or argue with non Bulls fans because they are only here to upset the forum.
You are the weakest link goodbye
Told you I don`t discuss or argue with non Bulls fans because they are only here to upset the forum. You are the weakest link goodbye Mumby was the best
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12:49pm Wed 15 Aug 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

In your eyes you would prefer if I made up some rubbish about how each club would be £100k worse off and that attendances in Super League would fall 20% across the board if the Bulls were to be removed?

I can start quoting fairytales if you want if that adds to the forum, all I ask for is a bucket of sand to dip my head into.
In your eyes you would prefer if I made up some rubbish about how each club would be £100k worse off and that attendances in Super League would fall 20% across the board if the Bulls were to be removed? I can start quoting fairytales if you want if that adds to the forum, all I ask for is a bucket of sand to dip my head into. Thee Voice of Reason
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12:56pm Wed 15 Aug 12

Steam Pigs says...

DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS - IGNORING THEM IS THE BEST WAY TO WIND THEM UP ain't that so Voice of very little reason?
DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS - IGNORING THEM IS THE BEST WAY TO WIND THEM UP ain't that so Voice of very little reason? Steam Pigs
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1:03pm Wed 15 Aug 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Whats that Steam Pigs, not one person has come back and proved against the facts laid out before them. Shame someone is out there spoiling all these plucked out of the air quotes which have no backing. It used to be much better when people said whatever rubbish they wanted and it was taken as gospel.
Whats that Steam Pigs, not one person has come back and proved against the facts laid out before them. Shame someone is out there spoiling all these plucked out of the air quotes which have no backing. It used to be much better when people said whatever rubbish they wanted and it was taken as gospel. Thee Voice of Reason
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1:40pm Wed 15 Aug 12

raisemeup says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Mumby was the best wrote:
Why VoR are you on this forum? You are a Cougars fan, if you were a true Bulls fan I could get into discussion with you but you are not.Go on a Cougars site and bore the pants off them with your pedantic posts. I`m sure if you look thru the classifieds you can find a job for a vertical or horizontal BORER
I'm not a cougars fan though I do have a soft spot for them and will go watch them.

What I don't like is the throwing around of quotes which have no truth to them in order to try get a point across.

It seems once again when facts are thrown into a discussion the person bringing the facts to the table is just attacked.

Once again this all started with stupid comments from Bulls fans stating Halifax don't deserve a place in Super League and the League can't afford to go without the Bulls.

As it stands Halifax have done nothing wrong but to continue in the league they are in after being knocked back for a Super League licence, Bradford on the other hand who were given a licence have gone on and caused no end of headaches for the Super League and the RFL.

Realistically going back the RFL should have been stronger and said these figures don't add up and been much more scrutising in the award of Super League licences because it's clear as day that the Bulls were not in a position to fufil the 3 year of a licence when they were awarded it.

Halifax on the other hand have just got on with their business.

Like someone has just posted above, no club is bigger than the League or the Sport but it seems many still don't realise this and quote stupid figures plucked from thin air to try back up that view, when looked at closer as I have provided don't stack up.

I want to see the Bulls in Super League next season but it's embarrassing seeing some thinking it's their god given right to be a super league team no matter how badly the club has been run.
You know what your problem is TVof NP?
You are like the proverbial fish, in that you can't resist the bait.(sorry about supplying it in copious quantity)

But you pick up on the non important point, whilst missing the whole gist of any story...
eg the 14k average quoted as an example of a near enough figure for the Bulls in 2012...You bust a gut trying to prove me wrong, whilst missing the whole point of an argument that Bulls fans feel very strongly about.
For the 16 years of SL, we have been a mainstay and a template for the RFLs concept of Super League in all but 5 of those years.And we still did a credible job even then.
In 1996 when Summer rugby came about, so we weren't competing with football and Rugby Union all the time. And the concept of Super League was born. The Bulls at their own investment made Super League what it is today.

I know the cost of Marketing over those first years was a 5 figure sum each year. And without anything from the RFL, to help or otherwise!
Of course we got plaudits from all over. And of course our club benefitted greatly with everything we achieved, as per the opening credits on the SKY televised game last Friday.

So when we discuss what our club can do for Super League again,
if given the chance, that's what we mean.
And I dispute one of your comments that the Bulls have been out with the begging bowl, that is a contemptiuos, assessment, we have never begged for anything.
We asked our supporters to help our staff to keep going so that they could put the games on, tthe fact that they and other supporters plus their clubs gave generously,
is something we will never forget. Your comments and those of a few others are beneath our contempt, if we can repay the favour.

Meaningless stats. and figures are for the unemotional non fan.

The passion and the belief is ours!
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mumby was the best[/bold] wrote: Why VoR are you on this forum? You are a Cougars fan, if you were a true Bulls fan I could get into discussion with you but you are not.Go on a Cougars site and bore the pants off them with your pedantic posts. I`m sure if you look thru the classifieds you can find a job for a vertical or horizontal BORER[/p][/quote]I'm not a cougars fan though I do have a soft spot for them and will go watch them. What I don't like is the throwing around of quotes which have no truth to them in order to try get a point across. It seems once again when facts are thrown into a discussion the person bringing the facts to the table is just attacked. Once again this all started with stupid comments from Bulls fans stating Halifax don't deserve a place in Super League and the League can't afford to go without the Bulls. As it stands Halifax have done nothing wrong but to continue in the league they are in after being knocked back for a Super League licence, Bradford on the other hand who were given a licence have gone on and caused no end of headaches for the Super League and the RFL. Realistically going back the RFL should have been stronger and said these figures don't add up and been much more scrutising in the award of Super League licences because it's clear as day that the Bulls were not in a position to fufil the 3 year of a licence when they were awarded it. Halifax on the other hand have just got on with their business. Like someone has just posted above, no club is bigger than the League or the Sport but it seems many still don't realise this and quote stupid figures plucked from thin air to try back up that view, when looked at closer as I have provided don't stack up. I want to see the Bulls in Super League next season but it's embarrassing seeing some thinking it's their god given right to be a super league team no matter how badly the club has been run.[/p][/quote]You know what your problem is TVof NP? You are like the proverbial fish, in that you can't resist the bait.(sorry about supplying it in copious quantity) But you pick up on the non important point, whilst missing the whole gist of any story... eg the 14k average quoted as an example of a near enough figure for the Bulls in 2012...You bust a gut trying to prove me wrong, whilst missing the whole point of an argument that Bulls fans feel very strongly about. For the 16 years of SL, we have been a mainstay and a template for the RFLs concept of Super League in all but 5 of those years.And we still did a credible job even then. In 1996 when Summer rugby came about, so we weren't competing with football and Rugby Union all the time. And the concept of Super League was born. The Bulls at their own investment made Super League what it is today. I know the cost of Marketing over those first years was a 5 figure sum each year. And without anything from the RFL, to help or otherwise! Of course we got plaudits from all over. And of course our club benefitted greatly with everything we achieved, as per the opening credits on the SKY televised game last Friday. So when we discuss what our club can do for Super League again, if given the chance, that's what we mean. And I dispute one of your comments that the Bulls have been out with the begging bowl, that is a contemptiuos, assessment, we have never begged for anything. We asked our supporters to help our staff to keep going so that they could put the games on, tthe fact that they and other supporters plus their clubs gave generously, is something we will never forget. Your comments and those of a few others are beneath our contempt, if we can repay the favour. Meaningless stats. and figures are for the unemotional non fan. The passion and the belief is ours! raisemeup
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1:55pm Wed 15 Aug 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

You don't lay bait, you say what you think is right then get proven wrong. Pretending your baiting me is just something you seem to have fallen back on because time and time again what you say is wrong.

As for not begging, I guess this pledge thing never happened when people and business were asked to hand over £1m.

As for 14k being near enough for 2012, the actual figure as proved is closer to 11k, 14k was for the year ticket prices were £65 for a season. An increase of £20 seems to have driven 3k away.
You don't lay bait, you say what you think is right then get proven wrong. Pretending your baiting me is just something you seem to have fallen back on because time and time again what you say is wrong. As for not begging, I guess this pledge thing never happened when people and business were asked to hand over £1m. As for 14k being near enough for 2012, the actual figure as proved is closer to 11k, 14k was for the year ticket prices were £65 for a season. An increase of £20 seems to have driven 3k away. Thee Voice of Reason
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2:19pm Wed 15 Aug 12

scandanavian's love child52 says...

Some know nowt jokers on here TVOR just ignore them.
Some know nowt jokers on here TVOR just ignore them. scandanavian's love child52
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11:58pm Wed 15 Aug 12

New Hall Nev says...

how come Bradford given special treetment when Wakey had to go it alone and pay there own way out of trouble yet Bradford getting all wages payed by the rest of clubs I hope we get to playoffs intsead of you it would be a lot fairer if we did.
how come Bradford given special treetment when Wakey had to go it alone and pay there own way out of trouble yet Bradford getting all wages payed by the rest of clubs I hope we get to playoffs intsead of you it would be a lot fairer if we did. New Hall Nev
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4:51pm Thu 16 Aug 12

Mumby was the best says...

New Hall Nev wrote:
how come Bradford given special treetment when Wakey had to go it alone and pay there own way out of trouble yet Bradford getting all wages payed by the rest of clubs I hope we get to playoffs intsead of you it would be a lot fairer if we did.
Because we can spell treatment, paid and instead.
[quote][p][bold]New Hall Nev[/bold] wrote: how come Bradford given special treetment when Wakey had to go it alone and pay there own way out of trouble yet Bradford getting all wages payed by the rest of clubs I hope we get to playoffs intsead of you it would be a lot fairer if we did.[/p][/quote]Because we can spell treatment, paid and instead. Mumby was the best
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5:50pm Thu 16 Aug 12

New Hall Nev says...

Mumby was the best wrote:
New Hall Nev wrote:
how come Bradford given special treetment when Wakey had to go it alone and pay there own way out of trouble yet Bradford getting all wages payed by the rest of clubs I hope we get to playoffs intsead of you it would be a lot fairer if we did.
Because we can spell treatment, paid and instead.
so what if my spelling int great you know im right in what I say Wakey will make the playoffs and you wont Agar is coach of the year without cheating hahaha
[quote][p][bold]Mumby was the best[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]New Hall Nev[/bold] wrote: how come Bradford given special treetment when Wakey had to go it alone and pay there own way out of trouble yet Bradford getting all wages payed by the rest of clubs I hope we get to playoffs intsead of you it would be a lot fairer if we did.[/p][/quote]Because we can spell treatment, paid and instead.[/p][/quote]so what if my spelling int great you know im right in what I say Wakey will make the playoffs and you wont Agar is coach of the year without cheating hahaha New Hall Nev
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7:47pm Thu 16 Aug 12

Sheffieldbull says...

New Hall Nev wrote:
Mumby was the best wrote:
New Hall Nev wrote:
how come Bradford given special treetment when Wakey had to go it alone and pay there own way out of trouble yet Bradford getting all wages payed by the rest of clubs I hope we get to playoffs intsead of you it would be a lot fairer if we did.
Because we can spell treatment, paid and instead.
so what if my spelling int great you know im right in what I say Wakey will make the playoffs and you wont Agar is coach of the year without cheating hahaha
Int it good yous no's how to press t' buttons Nev? Lock down time soon eh?
[quote][p][bold]New Hall Nev[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mumby was the best[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]New Hall Nev[/bold] wrote: how come Bradford given special treetment when Wakey had to go it alone and pay there own way out of trouble yet Bradford getting all wages payed by the rest of clubs I hope we get to playoffs intsead of you it would be a lot fairer if we did.[/p][/quote]Because we can spell treatment, paid and instead.[/p][/quote]so what if my spelling int great you know im right in what I say Wakey will make the playoffs and you wont Agar is coach of the year without cheating hahaha[/p][/quote]Int it good yous no's how to press t' buttons Nev? Lock down time soon eh? Sheffieldbull
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8:07pm Thu 16 Aug 12

New Hall Nev says...

Sheffieldbull wrote:
New Hall Nev wrote:
Mumby was the best wrote:
New Hall Nev wrote:
how come Bradford given special treetment when Wakey had to go it alone and pay there own way out of trouble yet Bradford getting all wages payed by the rest of clubs I hope we get to playoffs intsead of you it would be a lot fairer if we did.
Because we can spell treatment, paid and instead.
so what if my spelling int great you know im right in what I say Wakey will make the playoffs and you wont Agar is coach of the year without cheating hahaha
Int it good yous no's how to press t' buttons Nev? Lock down time soon eh?
shut it numhead you just dont like to hear the truth cheaters lol youll finish in tenth hahahha
[quote][p][bold]Sheffieldbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]New Hall Nev[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mumby was the best[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]New Hall Nev[/bold] wrote: how come Bradford given special treetment when Wakey had to go it alone and pay there own way out of trouble yet Bradford getting all wages payed by the rest of clubs I hope we get to playoffs intsead of you it would be a lot fairer if we did.[/p][/quote]Because we can spell treatment, paid and instead.[/p][/quote]so what if my spelling int great you know im right in what I say Wakey will make the playoffs and you wont Agar is coach of the year without cheating hahaha[/p][/quote]Int it good yous no's how to press t' buttons Nev? Lock down time soon eh?[/p][/quote]shut it numhead you just dont like to hear the truth cheaters lol youll finish in tenth hahahha New Hall Nev
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